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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
Any cases firsthand of successful restarts of long term TRT patients
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<blockquote data-quote="Paco1973" data-source="post: 114919" data-attributes="member: 18744"><p>I'm assuming you're the same SH from peaktestosterone.com. The writing style and the story is the same, so I'll just reply accordingly.</p><p></p><p>Dude, I am a FIRM believer in ASIH, and I think that prolonged exposure to testosterone therapy pretty much disrupts the HPTA for life. I tried to restart for a solid year, and I had to go back on. Everyone I know who has attempted a restart after being on prolonged trt has gone back to trt. That's a 100% failure rate. There may be a unicorn or two floating around out there, but they are rare. I know for certain that I AM NOT a unicorn. </p><p></p><p>What you are doing is cycling on and off testosterone, which is not good. It puts a lot of stress on your body. I had to accept that testosterone is a permanent part of my life. I think you need to do the same. How many failed restarts do you need to do before you accept reality? </p><p></p><p>Here's my advice: You're like a diabetic. You need testosterone to have a good quality of life. Accept it. Stick with your current protocol, or make changes as your doctor recommends. If this protocol fails, or you aren't satisfied, move to a short acting ester. I'm on daily propionate injections, and I feel fantastic. I think it is a little closer to what the body does naturally. Keep your expectations grounded in reality. It is not going to be perfect, but it will be better than walking around in a hypogonadal state. Stop putting your body through the roller coaster and accept that you are not a unicorn. </p><p></p><p>I don't know what protocol would work best for you, but, for me, the difference between being on propionate now and cypionate and enanthate in the past is night and day. Whatever you chose, you have to give it time. It takes time to get dialed in on trt. The more you are non-compliant, and the more you change the protocol without allowing time for your body to adjust, the more times you stop to do a restart that you know is going to fail, the more negative side-effects you are going to experience. </p><p></p><p>I was hypogonadal for a solid year in an attempt to restart. My health and body composition radically declined during that time. Barring some miracle cure, I am done with restarts. I don't recommend them for people who have been on trt for extended periods of time. No, I'm not a doctor. I'm just sharing an opinion based upon personal experience and what I've seen in the experience of others. </p><p></p><p>You're feeling better? Why in the world would you want to go back to being hypogonadal? You know you will not recover to the point of where you were at 36. You're older now, and you've had a lot of years on testosterone. You really think your HPTA is going to go back to where it was when you were 36?</p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've seen you doing this shit to yourself for almost 2 years. I don't know you personally, but you seem to be a decent guy. I hate to see you putting yourself through this crap. And, I know how it feels. </p><p></p><p>Be good to yourself. Be good to your body. TRT is not the end of the world. </p><p></p><p>Good luck with whatever you decide to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paco1973, post: 114919, member: 18744"] I'm assuming you're the same SH from peaktestosterone.com. The writing style and the story is the same, so I'll just reply accordingly. Dude, I am a FIRM believer in ASIH, and I think that prolonged exposure to testosterone therapy pretty much disrupts the HPTA for life. I tried to restart for a solid year, and I had to go back on. Everyone I know who has attempted a restart after being on prolonged trt has gone back to trt. That's a 100% failure rate. There may be a unicorn or two floating around out there, but they are rare. I know for certain that I AM NOT a unicorn. What you are doing is cycling on and off testosterone, which is not good. It puts a lot of stress on your body. I had to accept that testosterone is a permanent part of my life. I think you need to do the same. How many failed restarts do you need to do before you accept reality? Here's my advice: You're like a diabetic. You need testosterone to have a good quality of life. Accept it. Stick with your current protocol, or make changes as your doctor recommends. If this protocol fails, or you aren't satisfied, move to a short acting ester. I'm on daily propionate injections, and I feel fantastic. I think it is a little closer to what the body does naturally. Keep your expectations grounded in reality. It is not going to be perfect, but it will be better than walking around in a hypogonadal state. Stop putting your body through the roller coaster and accept that you are not a unicorn. I don't know what protocol would work best for you, but, for me, the difference between being on propionate now and cypionate and enanthate in the past is night and day. Whatever you chose, you have to give it time. It takes time to get dialed in on trt. The more you are non-compliant, and the more you change the protocol without allowing time for your body to adjust, the more times you stop to do a restart that you know is going to fail, the more negative side-effects you are going to experience. I was hypogonadal for a solid year in an attempt to restart. My health and body composition radically declined during that time. Barring some miracle cure, I am done with restarts. I don't recommend them for people who have been on trt for extended periods of time. No, I'm not a doctor. I'm just sharing an opinion based upon personal experience and what I've seen in the experience of others. You're feeling better? Why in the world would you want to go back to being hypogonadal? You know you will not recover to the point of where you were at 36. You're older now, and you've had a lot of years on testosterone. You really think your HPTA is going to go back to where it was when you were 36? I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've seen you doing this shit to yourself for almost 2 years. I don't know you personally, but you seem to be a decent guy. I hate to see you putting yourself through this crap. And, I know how it feels. Be good to yourself. Be good to your body. TRT is not the end of the world. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. [/QUOTE]
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