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<blockquote data-quote="Pbstupid" data-source="post: 77845" data-attributes="member: 16265"><p>Before i begin i realise how stupid and irresponsible this will read and ask you not to judge me. I never intend to cycle again and just want to get back to my normal self asap. Its a long thread but i cant put into words how much i value your time/response.</p><p></p><p>At age 22 in Around April/May 2015 i ran a cycle of test-e 250mg twice a week all the way up to September. I was young and stupid and was extremely negligent towards possible side affects. I threw anavar in towards the end of the cylce and my testicles shrivelled up to nothing at one point. I did not manage E2 with any sort or AI so throughout the cycle I had ED issues even though libido was here. I didnt use hcg on cycle either. On a long coach journey whilst on i also had a case of very bad swollen feet which i believe is down to high E2 and have varicose veins in one of them.</p><p></p><p>At the end of the cycle in september 2015 i took tamoxifen following dosgaes recommended online somewhere for about 4 weeks and threw in some arimidex not really knowing what i was doing. My libido was okayish but i always struggled to maintain an erection and it never felt the same.</p><p></p><p>I had a bloods done in june 2016 after avoiding the GP for as long as poss and he said everything was fine and in range so i put it down to being a psychological thing. I also believed it was however the reason i knew it wasnt was i went on holiday twice that summer, and each time after a few days in the sun POW i was back to my normal self ! Feeling happier, libido like it used to be and no signs of ED ! exactly how i was pre steroids. However a few days upon returning to the UK it was back to low test symptoms. I figured vitamin D definiciency may be the cause and was buzzing to test my theory however supplementing with this even at high does did nothing ? (I have read about other people with this observation regarding the sunlight post steroid cycle) ????</p><p></p><p>So when the doctor dismissed me i was down and did some stupid 2/3 week course of winstrol at 50mg a day before i went on holiday in September 2016 as a bit of a confidence booster with some friends who are also uneducated on steroid use and we did no pct.</p><p></p><p>I paid my GP to see the blood results from june 2016 and the only useful value i could really see was that my total serum testosterone was 11.7nmol/L. This was 7 months after finishing the cycle so within range but when i looked ... well out for a 23 year old ?! My GP never picked up on this ... then i foolishly threw more steroids in myself ?!</p><p></p><p>I just dont get the sexual urges i used to before steroids but libido was dealable. I just dont feel like i used to before i touched them. I could get an erection and have some pleasure but struggled to maintain it and nowhere near pre steroids.</p><p></p><p>I paid to privately see an endo and he recommended i just wait it out as im young and it could take up to 3 years to return to homeostasis. The GP didnt have a clue when i mentioned things like clomid and nolvadex, never tested my E2 and said i could have counselling.</p><p></p><p>I went on OTC test boosters and a PCT product with reservatrol in for two months at the end of 2016, and my libido went way down and ED worsened and ive had no libido since. I could look at any girl and nothing. I had bloods done in December which came in at:-</p><p></p><p>Testosterone 29.7nmol/L (7.6-31.4)</p><p></p><p>Free Test 0.677nmol/L (0.30 - 1)</p><p></p><p>Oestradiol 226.7pmol/L (0-191.99)</p><p></p><p>SHBG 31.24nmol/L (16-55)</p><p></p><p>FSH 2.03 IU/L (1.5 - 12.4)</p><p></p><p>LH 7.9 IU/L (1.7 - 9.6)</p><p></p><p>That E2 was sky high and explained why i then had 0 libido. The OTC PCT product with reservatrol seemed to be acting like a serm however my E2 rose in proportion with my T. I have since stopped these products and experimented with clomid and arimidex for a long time however it made me feel so down i stopped everything for 4 weeks.</p><p></p><p>I have began to redo a long 6-8 week PCT of clomid 25 and nolva 20 daily on the advice of smarter forum users. My testicles got slightly bigger but nothin to shout about, and i had been getting the odd morning erection but theres no libido with them.</p><p></p><p>should have just come off everything and levelled out im a ****ing idiot but i was looking for a quick fix. So i then upon the advice of a gym goer who seemed clued up went on a 'recovery' cycle.</p><p></p><p>I have been on sust 250mg per week for 6 weeks now with hcg 500iu 3x per week (this is recommended in jcaesar369 protocol also) and arimidex to keep e2 down.</p><p></p><p>Had these bloods taken two days ago:</p><p></p><p>17-BETA OESTRADIOL 67.2 pmol/L (0.00 - 191.99) TESTOSTERONE *43.83 nmol/L (7.60 - 31.40)</p><p></p><p>This was taken the other morning where i had rare morning wood ... but still not much sensation and zero libido ... it just doesnt even cross my mind. And to top it off i seem to be shedding hair on this sust cycle !! Im using nizoral and minoxidil to try combat this</p><p></p><p>Im 24 now and for the past 8 months ive messed around with my hormones and supplements hoping to improve me libido that much i just dont know what to do anymore. I need help and telling what to do.</p><p></p><p>So on the wiki advice here i cut this cycle short ... and have been on 1000iu hcg 3x per week and .5mg adex with every shot</p><p></p><p>There has been a slight short libido increae and slightly better erections after each shot but nowhere near major. My load size and testicle volume seem to increase very temporarily too then go back. I was advised to carry this on for another 3 weeks then to PCT with clomid & nolva</p><p></p><p>I just want to be normal its been so long. I know my bodies probably in a state of shock to be honest and im a ****ing idiot looking to resolve speedily hs worsened the case.</p><p></p><p>But going back on was my last resort to get a libido back and it doesnt seem to be working so i dont know whats up</p><p></p><p>Doctors dismiss me and i have to reach out for advice on the internet its so difficult. I want to live like a normal 24 year old. I really have paid for my stupidity.</p><p></p><p>Thanks it's much appreciated</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pbstupid, post: 77845, member: 16265"] Before i begin i realise how stupid and irresponsible this will read and ask you not to judge me. I never intend to cycle again and just want to get back to my normal self asap. Its a long thread but i cant put into words how much i value your time/response. At age 22 in Around April/May 2015 i ran a cycle of test-e 250mg twice a week all the way up to September. I was young and stupid and was extremely negligent towards possible side affects. I threw anavar in towards the end of the cylce and my testicles shrivelled up to nothing at one point. I did not manage E2 with any sort or AI so throughout the cycle I had ED issues even though libido was here. I didnt use hcg on cycle either. On a long coach journey whilst on i also had a case of very bad swollen feet which i believe is down to high E2 and have varicose veins in one of them. At the end of the cycle in september 2015 i took tamoxifen following dosgaes recommended online somewhere for about 4 weeks and threw in some arimidex not really knowing what i was doing. My libido was okayish but i always struggled to maintain an erection and it never felt the same. I had a bloods done in june 2016 after avoiding the GP for as long as poss and he said everything was fine and in range so i put it down to being a psychological thing. I also believed it was however the reason i knew it wasnt was i went on holiday twice that summer, and each time after a few days in the sun POW i was back to my normal self ! Feeling happier, libido like it used to be and no signs of ED ! exactly how i was pre steroids. However a few days upon returning to the UK it was back to low test symptoms. I figured vitamin D definiciency may be the cause and was buzzing to test my theory however supplementing with this even at high does did nothing ? (I have read about other people with this observation regarding the sunlight post steroid cycle) ???? So when the doctor dismissed me i was down and did some stupid 2/3 week course of winstrol at 50mg a day before i went on holiday in September 2016 as a bit of a confidence booster with some friends who are also uneducated on steroid use and we did no pct. I paid my GP to see the blood results from june 2016 and the only useful value i could really see was that my total serum testosterone was 11.7nmol/L. This was 7 months after finishing the cycle so within range but when i looked ... well out for a 23 year old ?! My GP never picked up on this ... then i foolishly threw more steroids in myself ?! I just dont get the sexual urges i used to before steroids but libido was dealable. I just dont feel like i used to before i touched them. I could get an erection and have some pleasure but struggled to maintain it and nowhere near pre steroids. I paid to privately see an endo and he recommended i just wait it out as im young and it could take up to 3 years to return to homeostasis. The GP didnt have a clue when i mentioned things like clomid and nolvadex, never tested my E2 and said i could have counselling. I went on OTC test boosters and a PCT product with reservatrol in for two months at the end of 2016, and my libido went way down and ED worsened and ive had no libido since. I could look at any girl and nothing. I had bloods done in December which came in at:- Testosterone 29.7nmol/L (7.6-31.4) Free Test 0.677nmol/L (0.30 - 1) Oestradiol 226.7pmol/L (0-191.99) SHBG 31.24nmol/L (16-55) FSH 2.03 IU/L (1.5 - 12.4) LH 7.9 IU/L (1.7 - 9.6) That E2 was sky high and explained why i then had 0 libido. The OTC PCT product with reservatrol seemed to be acting like a serm however my E2 rose in proportion with my T. I have since stopped these products and experimented with clomid and arimidex for a long time however it made me feel so down i stopped everything for 4 weeks. I have began to redo a long 6-8 week PCT of clomid 25 and nolva 20 daily on the advice of smarter forum users. My testicles got slightly bigger but nothin to shout about, and i had been getting the odd morning erection but theres no libido with them. should have just come off everything and levelled out im a ****ing idiot but i was looking for a quick fix. So i then upon the advice of a gym goer who seemed clued up went on a 'recovery' cycle. I have been on sust 250mg per week for 6 weeks now with hcg 500iu 3x per week (this is recommended in jcaesar369 protocol also) and arimidex to keep e2 down. Had these bloods taken two days ago: 17-BETA OESTRADIOL 67.2 pmol/L (0.00 - 191.99) TESTOSTERONE *43.83 nmol/L (7.60 - 31.40) This was taken the other morning where i had rare morning wood ... but still not much sensation and zero libido ... it just doesnt even cross my mind. And to top it off i seem to be shedding hair on this sust cycle !! Im using nizoral and minoxidil to try combat this Im 24 now and for the past 8 months ive messed around with my hormones and supplements hoping to improve me libido that much i just dont know what to do anymore. I need help and telling what to do. So on the wiki advice here i cut this cycle short ... and have been on 1000iu hcg 3x per week and .5mg adex with every shot There has been a slight short libido increae and slightly better erections after each shot but nowhere near major. My load size and testicle volume seem to increase very temporarily too then go back. I was advised to carry this on for another 3 weeks then to PCT with clomid & nolva I just want to be normal its been so long. I know my bodies probably in a state of shock to be honest and im a ****ing idiot looking to resolve speedily hs worsened the case. But going back on was my last resort to get a libido back and it doesnt seem to be working so i dont know whats up Doctors dismiss me and i have to reach out for advice on the internet its so difficult. I want to live like a normal 24 year old. I really have paid for my stupidity. Thanks it's much appreciated [/QUOTE]
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