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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
Almost one year on TRT... struggling to find balance
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<blockquote data-quote="readyforchange" data-source="post: 112999" data-attributes="member: 16501"><p>I agree with you it *seems like I'm sensitive to estrogen and HCG is setting that off leading to the anxiety and high hear rates. My pre-trt E2 was 19, so definitely NOT high. However, my SHBG was 60+ pre TRT (now down to 34), so that may have contributed to the low T. </p><p></p><p>It seems like there's some back and forth on HCG. Jay Campbell says if not for fertility or cosmetics, why do it? I have two kids and already had a vasectomy, so that's obviously not a concern. Cosmetics? My wife says she doesn't care, so I don't really care. I know Rand Mcclain has also expressed HCG as optional. </p><p></p><p>But then there are guys like Dr. Crisler who say the "wheels will fall off" without HCG and others who say you're voluntarily enducing organ failure by allowing testicles to shut down completely, so that fear has stopped me and I'm not sure what to think. </p><p></p><p>On the other side, I have my concerns about long-term AI use, so it's kind of like deciding where to roll the dice: no HCG and try to get off AI, dealing with potential negatives of complete shutdown or continue trying to manage E2 and keep HCG, rolling the dice on long-term AI usage. </p><p></p><p>I'm 31, so will (hopefully) be on this stuff for a long time, if I'm lucky enough to live a long life, so I'd hate to do something now that causes damage down the road. </p><p></p><p>Is reversing testicular atrophy/shutdown a simple thing to come back from by adding HCG back in a few months down the road, if warranted?</p><p></p><p>I plan to wait the month or so it takes to get with Dr. Saya instead of going with one of their other doctors/np's, so maybe just hash this out with him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="readyforchange, post: 112999, member: 16501"] I agree with you it *seems like I'm sensitive to estrogen and HCG is setting that off leading to the anxiety and high hear rates. My pre-trt E2 was 19, so definitely NOT high. However, my SHBG was 60+ pre TRT (now down to 34), so that may have contributed to the low T. It seems like there's some back and forth on HCG. Jay Campbell says if not for fertility or cosmetics, why do it? I have two kids and already had a vasectomy, so that's obviously not a concern. Cosmetics? My wife says she doesn't care, so I don't really care. I know Rand Mcclain has also expressed HCG as optional. But then there are guys like Dr. Crisler who say the "wheels will fall off" without HCG and others who say you're voluntarily enducing organ failure by allowing testicles to shut down completely, so that fear has stopped me and I'm not sure what to think. On the other side, I have my concerns about long-term AI use, so it's kind of like deciding where to roll the dice: no HCG and try to get off AI, dealing with potential negatives of complete shutdown or continue trying to manage E2 and keep HCG, rolling the dice on long-term AI usage. I'm 31, so will (hopefully) be on this stuff for a long time, if I'm lucky enough to live a long life, so I'd hate to do something now that causes damage down the road. Is reversing testicular atrophy/shutdown a simple thing to come back from by adding HCG back in a few months down the road, if warranted? I plan to wait the month or so it takes to get with Dr. Saya instead of going with one of their other doctors/np's, so maybe just hash this out with him. [/QUOTE]
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