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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
After 2 years on TRT (Nebido & Testosterone cream) maybe thinking on going back to Clomid
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<blockquote data-quote="Bolex" data-source="post: 227515" data-attributes="member: 42196"><p>So I went to my endocrinologist yesterday. wanted to discuss what to do next, after trying out testosterone cream in a local TRT clinic and realizing it is not for me. Fun at the start but easy to forget and miss the night application and I don´t like having to put on cream twice every day.</p><p>Well, actually my numbers didn`t came out very good on it either. I was expecting it because I feel off, with most of the symptoms I had before starting TRT (previously before the cream with Nebido).</p><p></p><p>-Extreme fatigue and low energy levels </p><p>-Irritability and mood swings</p><p>-Feeling depressed</p><p>-Lower libido</p><p>-Fogy mind </p><p>-Bad quality sleep, wake up 3 - 4 times a night and wake up early </p><p></p><p>Bloods came out like this on the cream:</p><p></p><p>Hemoglobin 17.6 (reference range max 16.6)</p><p>Hematocrit 50.0 (reference range max 48.6)</p><p></p><p>Cholesterol total - 181 (reference max <200) </p><p>HDL - 76 (reference >60)</p><p>LDL - 96 (reference <130)</p><p>Triglycerides - 44 (reference <150)</p><p></p><p>TGO - 40 (reference <34)</p><p>TGP - 46 (reference <49)</p><p>GGT - 15 (reference <73)</p><p></p><p>Free T4 - 1.13 ( reference 0.70 - 1.58)</p><p></p><p>E2- 36.7 (reference 0 - 40)</p><p>SHBG - 17.7 (reference 10 - 57)</p><p></p><p>Total T - 296.5 (reference 72 - 853) </p><p>Free T- 9.41 (reference 4.8 - 22.4</p><p></p><p>DHT - 598 (reference 175 - 913)</p><p>DHEA - 208 (reference 80 -560)</p><p></p><p>IGF-1 180 ( reference 43-209)</p><p>Homocysteine - 14.7 (reference 4.0 - 15.2)</p><p></p><p>I asked him about stopping everything and going back to clomid for a few months and then try to tapper out and see if I could produce enough endogenous T, but he thinks we already tried that and chances are small that I´ll be happy with those numbers as a former recreational AAS user...</p><p></p><p>So Im either back with nebido every 12 weeks and adjust from there ( the minimum interval he prescribes is 10 weeks) </p><p>Other choice would be testoviron 250ml every 3 to 4 weeks ( 3 weeks is the minimum interval he prescribes )</p><p></p><p>My numbers were quite stable with Nebido before actually, so I told him I would prefer that route.</p><p></p><p>what is bothering me here is that this time, he does not want me to front load nebido with that shorter interval fist injection (usually 6 weeks) and every 10-12 weeks after that.</p><p>He wants me to go strait to 12 weeks interval and, as I come from 4 month compound T-cream the nebido will probably take a lot more to build up in my system and I will feel like crap probably for a few months. </p><p></p><p>I actually asked him if we were going to do the standard protocol of the 6 weeks first shot interval as I was on cream for 4 month and he said "NO I think there is no need for that there is still test on your body..."</p><p></p><p>Not sure he did this because he is a "not so capable" doctor, because he is careful with dosages or because he sees me all jacked up all the time as I go to the gym 4 to 5 days a week for over 7 years now and he thinks I´m on AAS or what??</p><p></p><p>Other thing that comes to mind is that he did this because of my latest hematocrit levels that are high! Not front loading would give my body time to adjust and possibly lower and level out my hematocrit in range with "normal" levels but he didn`t say it directly to me...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bolex, post: 227515, member: 42196"] So I went to my endocrinologist yesterday. wanted to discuss what to do next, after trying out testosterone cream in a local TRT clinic and realizing it is not for me. Fun at the start but easy to forget and miss the night application and I don´t like having to put on cream twice every day. Well, actually my numbers didn`t came out very good on it either. I was expecting it because I feel off, with most of the symptoms I had before starting TRT (previously before the cream with Nebido). -Extreme fatigue and low energy levels -Irritability and mood swings -Feeling depressed -Lower libido -Fogy mind -Bad quality sleep, wake up 3 - 4 times a night and wake up early Bloods came out like this on the cream: Hemoglobin 17.6 (reference range max 16.6) Hematocrit 50.0 (reference range max 48.6) Cholesterol total - 181 (reference max <200) HDL - 76 (reference >60) LDL - 96 (reference <130) Triglycerides - 44 (reference <150) TGO - 40 (reference <34) TGP - 46 (reference <49) GGT - 15 (reference <73) Free T4 - 1.13 ( reference 0.70 - 1.58) E2- 36.7 (reference 0 - 40) SHBG - 17.7 (reference 10 - 57) Total T - 296.5 (reference 72 - 853) Free T- 9.41 (reference 4.8 - 22.4 DHT - 598 (reference 175 - 913) DHEA - 208 (reference 80 -560) IGF-1 180 ( reference 43-209) Homocysteine - 14.7 (reference 4.0 - 15.2) I asked him about stopping everything and going back to clomid for a few months and then try to tapper out and see if I could produce enough endogenous T, but he thinks we already tried that and chances are small that I´ll be happy with those numbers as a former recreational AAS user... So Im either back with nebido every 12 weeks and adjust from there ( the minimum interval he prescribes is 10 weeks) Other choice would be testoviron 250ml every 3 to 4 weeks ( 3 weeks is the minimum interval he prescribes ) My numbers were quite stable with Nebido before actually, so I told him I would prefer that route. what is bothering me here is that this time, he does not want me to front load nebido with that shorter interval fist injection (usually 6 weeks) and every 10-12 weeks after that. He wants me to go strait to 12 weeks interval and, as I come from 4 month compound T-cream the nebido will probably take a lot more to build up in my system and I will feel like crap probably for a few months. I actually asked him if we were going to do the standard protocol of the 6 weeks first shot interval as I was on cream for 4 month and he said "NO I think there is no need for that there is still test on your body..." Not sure he did this because he is a "not so capable" doctor, because he is careful with dosages or because he sees me all jacked up all the time as I go to the gym 4 to 5 days a week for over 7 years now and he thinks I´m on AAS or what?? Other thing that comes to mind is that he did this because of my latest hematocrit levels that are high! Not front loading would give my body time to adjust and possibly lower and level out my hematocrit in range with "normal" levels but he didn`t say it directly to me... [/QUOTE]
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