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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Blood Test Discussion
Advice on best protocol for me
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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 25692" data-source="post: 134826" data-attributes="member: 25692"><p>Forum,</p><p></p><p>Looking for advice on what to try next to get my labs in order. I've used E2 ECLIA and Sensitive testings (last one both out of interest) so I'm posting both with a note if it's calculated or measured. All labs are Labcorp and taken 2018 with corresponding ranges.</p><p></p><p>I'm having hard time understanding how 1.43mg decrease in T injections lowered the Total T (and Free in correlation) by 30% while SHBG stayed the same? The E levels could be explained by HCG, right?</p><p></p><p>My end goal would be to find a T + HCG protocol that keeps the E levels within ranges without the need of AI, even with lower than ideal T levels. What I've thought as the next steps would be to do EOD 20mg T injections, get new set of tests and if E has decreased bring the HCG back with very small doses at first. Does this make sense? </p><p></p><p><strong>Baseline before starting TRT</strong></p><p>Test Tot 360-370</p><p>Test Free 6-7 </p><p>SHBG 30-38</p><p>E2 (ECLIA, measured) 14-18</p><p>E2 (Sensitive, calc) 12-15</p><p>E Tot 116 (range 40-115) <strong>(High)</strong></p><p>E1 57 (range 12-72)</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Protocol 1: 5g Test Cyp cream ED</strong></p><p>Test Tot 537 </p><p>Test Free 8.1 (1.55%)</p><p>SHBG 53</p><p>E2 (ECLIA, measured) 24.1</p><p>E2 (Sensitive, calc) 20.3</p><p>E Tot 124 (range 40-115) <strong>(High)</strong></p><p>E1 55 (range 12-72)</p><p></p><p><strong>Protocol 2: 75mg E3.5D Test Cyp injection</strong></p><p>Test Tot 985</p><p>Test Free 23.2 (2.4%)</p><p>SHBG 31.5</p><p>E2 (ECLIA, calc) 53 <strong>(High)</strong></p><p>E2 (Sensitive, measured) 44.6 <strong>(High)</strong></p><p>E Tot NA</p><p>E1 NA</p><p></p><p><strong>Protocol 3: 60mg E3D Test Cyp <strong>injection + 500IU HCG</strong></strong></p><p>Test Tot 693</p><p>Test Free 15 (2.2%)</p><p>SHBG 33.5</p><p>E2 (ECLIA, measured) 48.4 <strong>(High)</strong></p><p>E2 (Sensitive, measured) 40.7 <strong>(High)</strong></p><p>E Tot 168(range 40-115) <strong>(High)</strong></p><p>E1 90 (range 12-72) <strong>(High)</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 25692, post: 134826, member: 25692"] Forum, Looking for advice on what to try next to get my labs in order. I've used E2 ECLIA and Sensitive testings (last one both out of interest) so I'm posting both with a note if it's calculated or measured. All labs are Labcorp and taken 2018 with corresponding ranges. I'm having hard time understanding how 1.43mg decrease in T injections lowered the Total T (and Free in correlation) by 30% while SHBG stayed the same? The E levels could be explained by HCG, right? My end goal would be to find a T + HCG protocol that keeps the E levels within ranges without the need of AI, even with lower than ideal T levels. What I've thought as the next steps would be to do EOD 20mg T injections, get new set of tests and if E has decreased bring the HCG back with very small doses at first. Does this make sense? [B]Baseline before starting TRT[/B] Test Tot 360-370 Test Free 6-7 SHBG 30-38 E2 (ECLIA, measured) 14-18 E2 (Sensitive, calc) 12-15 E Tot 116 (range 40-115) [B](High)[/B] E1 57 (range 12-72) [B]Protocol 1: 5g Test Cyp cream ED[/B] Test Tot 537 Test Free 8.1 (1.55%) SHBG 53 E2 (ECLIA, measured) 24.1 E2 (Sensitive, calc) 20.3 E Tot 124 (range 40-115) [B](High)[/B] E1 55 (range 12-72) [B]Protocol 2: 75mg E3.5D Test Cyp injection[/B] Test Tot 985 Test Free 23.2 (2.4%) SHBG 31.5 E2 (ECLIA, calc) 53 [B](High)[/B] E2 (Sensitive, measured) 44.6 [B](High)[/B] E Tot NA E1 NA [B]Protocol 3: 60mg E3D Test Cyp [B]injection + 500IU HCG[/B][/B] Test Tot 693 Test Free 15 (2.2%) SHBG 33.5 E2 (ECLIA, measured) 48.4 [B](High)[/B] E2 (Sensitive, measured) 40.7 [B](High)[/B] E Tot 168(range 40-115) [B](High)[/B] E1 90 (range 12-72) [B](High)[/B] [/QUOTE]
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