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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Adrenal /HPA puzzle- completely lost
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<blockquote data-quote="DB32" data-source="post: 94082" data-attributes="member: 17419"><p>My adrenal problems started 9 years ago when I self diagnosed adrenal fatigue and then decided to trial prednisone 5mg.</p><p></p><p>I felt myself becoming more unwell as the day went on and woke up the next morning shaking, heart palps and low sugar.</p><p></p><p>After just one day my whole system was thrown off and I soon realised what true low cortisol symptoms were.</p><p></p><p>I didn't touch any more prednisone and </p><p>I was hoping my body would adjust back to my pre prednisone state but it never did.</p><p></p><p>Some weeks later I ended up in hospital with low cortisol symptoms and ended up discovering I had some sort of adrenal crisis and I also failed a synacthen test.</p><p></p><p>Was on pred for about 8 weeks with zero quality of life so I weened off under supervision of endo and managed to get me serum cortisol into the high normal end of the am range.</p><p></p><p>I've managed to get back to about 60% over the last 8 years or so and got to the point where I could work out and function normally and even took on a high powered job,got married and had a child all whilst working late and working out 5-6 times a week.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ever since the original crash and hospitalisation I have become super sensitive to almost every supplement and every time I try a supplement or to improve my health it's like my adrenals/HPA just cut off instantly and over 48 hours I spiral down down into a low cortisol mess which takes months to claw back.</p><p></p><p>Supplements that crash my adrenals instantly :</p><p>Zinc - </p><p>Mag- </p><p>D3- </p><p>Adaptogens- </p><p>Ssris- </p><p>BCAA- </p><p>Testosterone -(trailed test 100mg of propionate for 1.5 weeks(3 shots of 50mg), I used because I wanted to be able to abort if symptoms got worse) the reason I did this was because my doctor refused to put me on TRT a few years ago after low test bloods and my HPA didn't like the increase in test.</p><p></p><p>Supplements that work:</p><p>Vit b5</p><p>Vit b6</p><p>Vit c- if I take too much it lowers cort and if I'm having a relapse this can push it down further(I only take it because I heard the adrenals need it to produce proper amounts of cort)</p><p>B12(in moderate doses)</p><p></p><p>I've recently posted on the bloodwork forum about low test and decided to trial D3 this week As I am desperate to raise free T.</p><p></p><p>Friday I took one dose of vit D -1250iu and within 12 -24 hours my old symptoms returned and I have basically been in bed all weekend from a complete crash(pathetic I know , I wish I was exaggerating but it's true )</p><p></p><p>I was hoping to get a trial for TRT but given that my HpA is so pathetic I worry that test will just dump my HPA into an even worse state.</p><p></p><p>I've been reading about HPA dysregulation vs adrenal fatigue and it certainly makes more sense to me, unfortunately I am pretty cluelesss as to how to repair the HPA or if I am doomed to spend my life in a low energy and fatigued state with poor functioning hormones and no energy to work out.</p><p></p><p>I'm really frustrated and feel I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.I don't know what information to trust as it was things like salivary cortisol that convinced me I was unwell in the first place and was desperate enough to try a steroid because I just wanted to be rid of my awful symptoms. I hate feeling like I'm spinning my wheels.</p><p></p><p>If there is anybody that can help please get in touch as I am struggling to keep going and really need to make the right steps forward in a more productive manor under the guidance of a specialist in this area and support from a community who understands this.</p><p></p><p>I have limited funds but I will invest in a specialist but am very wary due to bad advice in the past.</p><p></p><p>Thanks</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DB32, post: 94082, member: 17419"] My adrenal problems started 9 years ago when I self diagnosed adrenal fatigue and then decided to trial prednisone 5mg. I felt myself becoming more unwell as the day went on and woke up the next morning shaking, heart palps and low sugar. After just one day my whole system was thrown off and I soon realised what true low cortisol symptoms were. I didn't touch any more prednisone and I was hoping my body would adjust back to my pre prednisone state but it never did. Some weeks later I ended up in hospital with low cortisol symptoms and ended up discovering I had some sort of adrenal crisis and I also failed a synacthen test. Was on pred for about 8 weeks with zero quality of life so I weened off under supervision of endo and managed to get me serum cortisol into the high normal end of the am range. I've managed to get back to about 60% over the last 8 years or so and got to the point where I could work out and function normally and even took on a high powered job,got married and had a child all whilst working late and working out 5-6 times a week. Ever since the original crash and hospitalisation I have become super sensitive to almost every supplement and every time I try a supplement or to improve my health it's like my adrenals/HPA just cut off instantly and over 48 hours I spiral down down into a low cortisol mess which takes months to claw back. Supplements that crash my adrenals instantly : Zinc - Mag- D3- Adaptogens- Ssris- BCAA- Testosterone -(trailed test 100mg of propionate for 1.5 weeks(3 shots of 50mg), I used because I wanted to be able to abort if symptoms got worse) the reason I did this was because my doctor refused to put me on TRT a few years ago after low test bloods and my HPA didn't like the increase in test. Supplements that work: Vit b5 Vit b6 Vit c- if I take too much it lowers cort and if I'm having a relapse this can push it down further(I only take it because I heard the adrenals need it to produce proper amounts of cort) B12(in moderate doses) I've recently posted on the bloodwork forum about low test and decided to trial D3 this week As I am desperate to raise free T. Friday I took one dose of vit D -1250iu and within 12 -24 hours my old symptoms returned and I have basically been in bed all weekend from a complete crash(pathetic I know , I wish I was exaggerating but it's true ) I was hoping to get a trial for TRT but given that my HpA is so pathetic I worry that test will just dump my HPA into an even worse state. I've been reading about HPA dysregulation vs adrenal fatigue and it certainly makes more sense to me, unfortunately I am pretty cluelesss as to how to repair the HPA or if I am doomed to spend my life in a low energy and fatigued state with poor functioning hormones and no energy to work out. I'm really frustrated and feel I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.I don't know what information to trust as it was things like salivary cortisol that convinced me I was unwell in the first place and was desperate enough to try a steroid because I just wanted to be rid of my awful symptoms. I hate feeling like I'm spinning my wheels. If there is anybody that can help please get in touch as I am struggling to keep going and really need to make the right steps forward in a more productive manor under the guidance of a specialist in this area and support from a community who understands this. I have limited funds but I will invest in a specialist but am very wary due to bad advice in the past. Thanks [/QUOTE]
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