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About to start TRT - should I?
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<blockquote data-quote="Gman86" data-source="post: 178484" data-attributes="member: 15043"><p>I would guess that not absorbing vitamins, minerals and nutrients from ur food is definitely the root cause. I’m a nurse, not that it matters really, imo, and statins and acid blockers are the 2 worst meds that any human can take, again imo. Would only suggest statins, as a short term bandaid, if u had a genetic disorder that warranted it, which is pretty rare from what I’ve seen. They both can absolutely wreck ur health. U’d have to put a gun to my head to get me to ingest either. And even then, I might just say pull the trigger. Obv joking, kind of lol. But u have to get off the PPI. Nothings going to resolve naturally until u do. Obv u know u need to quit smoking, But ur a big boy, u don’t need us to tell u that. And at 6’6”, ur definitely a big boy lol. </p><p></p><p>As far as what u should do, definitely drop the PPI. To get ur B12 up, I would suggest eating beef liver. If u can’t stand the taste, just take desiccated beef liver capsules. Liver is the 2nd highest source of b12 on the planet. Liver is basically nature’s mutlivitamin. It’s packed with basically everything u need, on top of a healthy diet. I eat actual liver right now, but for years I took this product. B12 was always at the top of the range. Best part is none of the vitamins and minerals are synthetic, and they’re all in the proper ratios nature intended. Unlike multivitamins. </p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.amazon.com/Ancestral-Supplements-Grass-Liver-Desiccated/dp/B01MSBZYQW/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Ancestral+supplements+liver&qid=1589805630&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFKUjgwVjUwMDVBMDEmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA3MDYyMjlOMlFGRThMM09CUE0mZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDUwMzcwMDJGQzFTUEpHNE02Q08md2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Depending on ur HCT and HGB levels, assuming they’re not too low, I would donate blood. Ur iron levels look pretty good, on the higher end, but it’s ur ferritin that’s a little higher than I like to see it. Barely tho. I think experts recommend for males to have it in the high double digits. It may or may not make a difference, but having too much iron in the body is just as bad as having too little. </p><p></p><p>Are u planning on having children in the future? Because everyone is right, addressing the root cause of the issue is absolutely what u should do. But I’m also not against hopping on HRT to get ur life back in the meantime, especially at ur age. My testosterone was low due to an underlining reason, just like u. Not the same reason. Mine was most likely due to mold exposure. But total was around 600-700, which was great, but free T about where urs is. And I felt horrible. No sexual issues, but had all the other issues ur mentioning. I was 27 at the time. 33 now. Getting on HRT was probably the best thing I ever did in my life. I have zero regrets. I feel extremely lucky that I’ve been able to optimize my hormones at such a young age, and will have optimal hormones for the rest of my life, starting at age 27. I feel like it’s going to give me a huge advantage when it comes to longevity. But anyways, there’s a lot of debate on whether the free T direct test is useless or not. And I’m not here to argue with anyone over it, but ime, it correlates perfectly with how I’m feeling subjectively. So for me, it is absolutely not useless. When my free T was low like urs, I felt all the symptoms. When I got on HRT and got my free T up, again using free T direct, I felt a million times better. My free T direct results correlated perfectly with how I was feeling subjectively. Here are my labs while on no HRT. First 2 were before going on HRT, and the 3rd set of labs was after trying to restart myself with Clomid monotherapy for a few months. </p><p></p><p>Tru- t = 17.23 (16-31)</p><p>8-5-15 labs were while on this protocol: </p><p>ON NOTHING (LABCORP)</p><p>Total T - 584 (348-1197 ng/dL) </p><p>Free T - 7.3 (9.3-26.5) </p><p>SHBG - 57.1 ( 16.5 - 55.9). </p><p>E2 NOT sensitive - 14.6 (7.6-42.6) </p><p>LH - 3.5 (1.7-8.6)</p><p>FSH - 2.3 (1.5-12.4)</p><p>TSH - 1.2 (0.450-4.500)</p><p>T4 free - 1.15 (0.82-1.77)</p><p>T3 free 3.4 ( 2.0-4.4)</p><p>DHEA-S 486.0 (138.5-475.2)</p><p></p><p>Tru- t = 22.44 (16-31)</p><p>11-2-15 labs were while on this protocol:</p><p>ON NOTHING (QUEST)</p><p>Total T - 691 (250-1100 ng/dL) </p><p>Free T - 73.9 (46.0-224.0) </p><p>Bio T - 161.6 (110.0-575.0 ng/dL) </p><p>SHBG 45 (10-50) </p><p>E2 Sensitive- 25</p><p>IGF 1 - 294 (63-373)</p><p>DHEA-S - 411 (106-464)</p><p>Albumin - 4.7 (3.6-5.1)</p><p>EST bio 310</p><p></p><p></p><p>Tru - t = 18.25 (16-31)</p><p>8-31-16 labs were while on this protocol:</p><p>ON NOTHING (QUEST)</p><p>Total T - 601 (250-1100 ng/dL) </p><p>Free T - 54.3 (46.0-224.0) </p><p>Bio T - 116.4 (110.0-575.0 ng/dL) </p><p>SHBG 53 (10-50) </p><p>E2 NOT Sensitive - 23</p><p>IGF 1 - 204 (53-331)</p><p>DHEA, LC/MS/MS 324 (61-1636)</p><p>B12 - 1434 (200-1100)</p><p></p><p>I’m not suggesting u do this, this is only what I would do if I were in ur position. I would personally go on HRT. At ur age, I personally feel like it’s a no brainer to go on HRT, get ur life back, and still obv work on the underlying cause to ur issues. Which imo, is the malabsorption of vitamins, minerals and nutrients from ur food, secondary to long term PPI use.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gman86, post: 178484, member: 15043"] I would guess that not absorbing vitamins, minerals and nutrients from ur food is definitely the root cause. I’m a nurse, not that it matters really, imo, and statins and acid blockers are the 2 worst meds that any human can take, again imo. Would only suggest statins, as a short term bandaid, if u had a genetic disorder that warranted it, which is pretty rare from what I’ve seen. They both can absolutely wreck ur health. U’d have to put a gun to my head to get me to ingest either. And even then, I might just say pull the trigger. Obv joking, kind of lol. But u have to get off the PPI. Nothings going to resolve naturally until u do. Obv u know u need to quit smoking, But ur a big boy, u don’t need us to tell u that. And at 6’6”, ur definitely a big boy lol. As far as what u should do, definitely drop the PPI. To get ur B12 up, I would suggest eating beef liver. If u can’t stand the taste, just take desiccated beef liver capsules. Liver is the 2nd highest source of b12 on the planet. Liver is basically nature’s mutlivitamin. It’s packed with basically everything u need, on top of a healthy diet. I eat actual liver right now, but for years I took this product. B12 was always at the top of the range. Best part is none of the vitamins and minerals are synthetic, and they’re all in the proper ratios nature intended. Unlike multivitamins. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.amazon.com/Ancestral-Supplements-Grass-Liver-Desiccated/dp/B01MSBZYQW/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Ancestral+supplements+liver&qid=1589805630&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFKUjgwVjUwMDVBMDEmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA3MDYyMjlOMlFGRThMM09CUE0mZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDUwMzcwMDJGQzFTUEpHNE02Q08md2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl[/URL] Depending on ur HCT and HGB levels, assuming they’re not too low, I would donate blood. Ur iron levels look pretty good, on the higher end, but it’s ur ferritin that’s a little higher than I like to see it. Barely tho. I think experts recommend for males to have it in the high double digits. It may or may not make a difference, but having too much iron in the body is just as bad as having too little. Are u planning on having children in the future? Because everyone is right, addressing the root cause of the issue is absolutely what u should do. But I’m also not against hopping on HRT to get ur life back in the meantime, especially at ur age. My testosterone was low due to an underlining reason, just like u. Not the same reason. Mine was most likely due to mold exposure. But total was around 600-700, which was great, but free T about where urs is. And I felt horrible. No sexual issues, but had all the other issues ur mentioning. I was 27 at the time. 33 now. Getting on HRT was probably the best thing I ever did in my life. I have zero regrets. I feel extremely lucky that I’ve been able to optimize my hormones at such a young age, and will have optimal hormones for the rest of my life, starting at age 27. I feel like it’s going to give me a huge advantage when it comes to longevity. But anyways, there’s a lot of debate on whether the free T direct test is useless or not. And I’m not here to argue with anyone over it, but ime, it correlates perfectly with how I’m feeling subjectively. So for me, it is absolutely not useless. When my free T was low like urs, I felt all the symptoms. When I got on HRT and got my free T up, again using free T direct, I felt a million times better. My free T direct results correlated perfectly with how I was feeling subjectively. Here are my labs while on no HRT. First 2 were before going on HRT, and the 3rd set of labs was after trying to restart myself with Clomid monotherapy for a few months. Tru- t = 17.23 (16-31) 8-5-15 labs were while on this protocol: ON NOTHING (LABCORP) Total T - 584 (348-1197 ng/dL) Free T - 7.3 (9.3-26.5) SHBG - 57.1 ( 16.5 - 55.9). E2 NOT sensitive - 14.6 (7.6-42.6) LH - 3.5 (1.7-8.6) FSH - 2.3 (1.5-12.4) TSH - 1.2 (0.450-4.500) T4 free - 1.15 (0.82-1.77) T3 free 3.4 ( 2.0-4.4) DHEA-S 486.0 (138.5-475.2) Tru- t = 22.44 (16-31) 11-2-15 labs were while on this protocol: ON NOTHING (QUEST) Total T - 691 (250-1100 ng/dL) Free T - 73.9 (46.0-224.0) Bio T - 161.6 (110.0-575.0 ng/dL) SHBG 45 (10-50) E2 Sensitive- 25 IGF 1 - 294 (63-373) DHEA-S - 411 (106-464) Albumin - 4.7 (3.6-5.1) EST bio 310 Tru - t = 18.25 (16-31) 8-31-16 labs were while on this protocol: ON NOTHING (QUEST) Total T - 601 (250-1100 ng/dL) Free T - 54.3 (46.0-224.0) Bio T - 116.4 (110.0-575.0 ng/dL) SHBG 53 (10-50) E2 NOT Sensitive - 23 IGF 1 - 204 (53-331) DHEA, LC/MS/MS 324 (61-1636) B12 - 1434 (200-1100) I’m not suggesting u do this, this is only what I would do if I were in ur position. I would personally go on HRT. At ur age, I personally feel like it’s a no brainer to go on HRT, get ur life back, and still obv work on the underlying cause to ur issues. Which imo, is the malabsorption of vitamins, minerals and nutrients from ur food, secondary to long term PPI use. [/QUOTE]
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