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<blockquote data-quote="Rorinsmith" data-source="post: 6537" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>Congratulations on the education process you've taken with your Doc! You did the same thing I did to educate my HIV Doc. Only difference is that I did this last August before this site was up and running. I'd never heard of Dr. Crisler but I had read both of Nelson's books. I was mostly focused on Built To Survive as I'm living with AIDS. My first thought was to send the Doc a copy of the book but I knew he'd never get a chance to sit down and read it. What I did was make copies of sections that pertained specifically to me. For example I left out information about anabolics because I was lucky enough to never have had wasting syndrome and didn't include info on weight training because he knew I'd been into bodybuilding for years. I put together a concise and very well laid out presentation that ended up being almost half an inch thick. Doing this made me feel like I was back in college doing a big research project and I felt quite proud of it when I was finished! When I told the Doc I wanted to send it to him he was quite pleased and looked forward to reading it as he had little knowledge of TRT and its relationship with AIDS. When I had an appointment with him in November he told me how impressed he was with what I sent him. I was a little disappointed because he wasn't quite as excited as I hoped he'd be. But I let that feeling slide when he told me he was more than willing to work with me and was satisfied in my guiding the way though the processes. Before leaving I told him I knew that there were tests that would need to done in a few months and that I would get to him regarding their scheduling. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, cocarr, having said all that I want to stop for a moment and give you a warning. I DO NOT want to see your relationship with your doctor backfire on you like mine did with me two days ago. Two weeks ago I sent the Doc a printout of a posting Nelson did on minimum tests that needed to be run and their frequency. For six months that included the following: CBC, Testosterone, Free & Total, PSA, LH & FSH, Lipids, CBC, CMP and Estridol (ultrasensitive). When the labs were scheduled his office let me know. When I went in for work to be done I was told the only test scheduled was Testosterone Free and Total. Without my prior knowledge PSA,CBC and CMP were scheduled for mid May along with my annual HIV test. No other tests had been scheduled. So two days ago I called the doctors office to ask what had happened and was told by his PA that the Doc no longer wanted to work with me on on TRT and that any consultation and scheduling of tests needed to be done with my PCP. So, my warning to you is that going into this with a doctor who is not trained in testosterone, even though you've educated the hell out of him, is not a sure thing. If the going gets tougher than he expected or he gets nervous about something he could suddenly drop you. I'm not saying this is going to happen to you but I want you to keep it in the back of your mind. Your Doc sounds like a nice guy who'd be willing to sit down and have a nice heart to heart with you. Explain how this is an extremely important lifelong commitment you're making and that you'll need his unending support. I'm a little concerned about your Doc's age. Ask him frankly if there's a doc he can refer you to if he suddenly needs to retire or dies.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, congrats! I'll be keeping my fingers crossed in hoping this relationship works out for you. In the meantime I hope other members on this site will keep their fingers crossed for me. I'm stunned by what's happened and don't understand what went wrong. I asked my Doc's PA if the Doc was upset with me and she said "Oh, absolutely not! I think he's just decided he's not comfortable dealing with testosterone." Wonderful. Thanks for tellin' me now, Doc!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Next week I'm calling my PCP and see if he'll help me with TRT. Dr. Joe is a wonderful man whom I have the utmost love and respect for. He's been my PCP for 24 years, is slightly younger than me, very respectful, ego free and soft spoken. Every time I see him I'm left with the feeling that I've just had a wonderful visit with the family priest. I've caught myself a few times almost addressing him as "Father Joe". I saw him late last spring with a respiratory problem just before I started TRT. I saw him again last month regarding a pulled quad muscle. When he walked in the door he stopped and said "You look fantastic! You're HUGE!" He continued with "I can tell your mood is better, you're not depressed and the sparkle is back in your eyes." He ended this visit with "I have a lot of guys ask me about testosterone and I'm always hesitant in recommending it. First, there's the lifelong commitment which most men don't realize and second is the cost. It's expensive and a lot guys don't have insurance that will cover it. In your case it's obviously done a lot of good and I'm absolutely thrilled that you're doing it!" I have to tell ya, when I walked out of his office I was floating on Cloud Nine! When I put the material together that I sent to my HIV Doc I made a second copy with the intention of sending it to Dr. Joe. I never sent it because it didn't excite the Doc as much as I hoped it would so I thought it might not excite Dr. Joe that much either. When I saw him I told I had a copy for him and he seemed thrilled and said he'd love to read it. I haven't sent it yet and want to update it a bit and play up EXCELMALE a bit. So what do you think guys? Think this Doc will help me out? I'm sure hoping so!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rorinsmith, post: 6537, member: 353"] Congratulations on the education process you've taken with your Doc! You did the same thing I did to educate my HIV Doc. Only difference is that I did this last August before this site was up and running. I'd never heard of Dr. Crisler but I had read both of Nelson's books. I was mostly focused on Built To Survive as I'm living with AIDS. My first thought was to send the Doc a copy of the book but I knew he'd never get a chance to sit down and read it. What I did was make copies of sections that pertained specifically to me. For example I left out information about anabolics because I was lucky enough to never have had wasting syndrome and didn't include info on weight training because he knew I'd been into bodybuilding for years. I put together a concise and very well laid out presentation that ended up being almost half an inch thick. Doing this made me feel like I was back in college doing a big research project and I felt quite proud of it when I was finished! When I told the Doc I wanted to send it to him he was quite pleased and looked forward to reading it as he had little knowledge of TRT and its relationship with AIDS. When I had an appointment with him in November he told me how impressed he was with what I sent him. I was a little disappointed because he wasn't quite as excited as I hoped he'd be. But I let that feeling slide when he told me he was more than willing to work with me and was satisfied in my guiding the way though the processes. Before leaving I told him I knew that there were tests that would need to done in a few months and that I would get to him regarding their scheduling. Okay, cocarr, having said all that I want to stop for a moment and give you a warning. I DO NOT want to see your relationship with your doctor backfire on you like mine did with me two days ago. Two weeks ago I sent the Doc a printout of a posting Nelson did on minimum tests that needed to be run and their frequency. For six months that included the following: CBC, Testosterone, Free & Total, PSA, LH & FSH, Lipids, CBC, CMP and Estridol (ultrasensitive). When the labs were scheduled his office let me know. When I went in for work to be done I was told the only test scheduled was Testosterone Free and Total. Without my prior knowledge PSA,CBC and CMP were scheduled for mid May along with my annual HIV test. No other tests had been scheduled. So two days ago I called the doctors office to ask what had happened and was told by his PA that the Doc no longer wanted to work with me on on TRT and that any consultation and scheduling of tests needed to be done with my PCP. So, my warning to you is that going into this with a doctor who is not trained in testosterone, even though you've educated the hell out of him, is not a sure thing. If the going gets tougher than he expected or he gets nervous about something he could suddenly drop you. I'm not saying this is going to happen to you but I want you to keep it in the back of your mind. Your Doc sounds like a nice guy who'd be willing to sit down and have a nice heart to heart with you. Explain how this is an extremely important lifelong commitment you're making and that you'll need his unending support. I'm a little concerned about your Doc's age. Ask him frankly if there's a doc he can refer you to if he suddenly needs to retire or dies. Again, congrats! I'll be keeping my fingers crossed in hoping this relationship works out for you. In the meantime I hope other members on this site will keep their fingers crossed for me. I'm stunned by what's happened and don't understand what went wrong. I asked my Doc's PA if the Doc was upset with me and she said "Oh, absolutely not! I think he's just decided he's not comfortable dealing with testosterone." Wonderful. Thanks for tellin' me now, Doc! Next week I'm calling my PCP and see if he'll help me with TRT. Dr. Joe is a wonderful man whom I have the utmost love and respect for. He's been my PCP for 24 years, is slightly younger than me, very respectful, ego free and soft spoken. Every time I see him I'm left with the feeling that I've just had a wonderful visit with the family priest. I've caught myself a few times almost addressing him as "Father Joe". I saw him late last spring with a respiratory problem just before I started TRT. I saw him again last month regarding a pulled quad muscle. When he walked in the door he stopped and said "You look fantastic! You're HUGE!" He continued with "I can tell your mood is better, you're not depressed and the sparkle is back in your eyes." He ended this visit with "I have a lot of guys ask me about testosterone and I'm always hesitant in recommending it. First, there's the lifelong commitment which most men don't realize and second is the cost. It's expensive and a lot guys don't have insurance that will cover it. In your case it's obviously done a lot of good and I'm absolutely thrilled that you're doing it!" I have to tell ya, when I walked out of his office I was floating on Cloud Nine! When I put the material together that I sent to my HIV Doc I made a second copy with the intention of sending it to Dr. Joe. I never sent it because it didn't excite the Doc as much as I hoped it would so I thought it might not excite Dr. Joe that much either. When I saw him I told I had a copy for him and he seemed thrilled and said he'd love to read it. I haven't sent it yet and want to update it a bit and play up EXCELMALE a bit. So what do you think guys? Think this Doc will help me out? I'm sure hoping so! [/QUOTE]
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