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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Blood Test Discussion
8 weeks into TRT - need help with protocol adjustments
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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 25692" data-source="post: 123136" data-attributes="member: 25692"><p>34yo male, 5′10, 185lb, low(ish) bodyfat, healthy diet, weight training 3-5/week</p><p></p><p>I've read the stickies and I'm sorry I won't have all the required lab test results for you to provide. Still working this thing out with my doc who for some reason doesn't want to order too much labs so might have to switch or do my own labs in the future..</p><p></p><p>All below results labcorp, same location</p><p></p><p>Initial 1, Initial 2 (after 4weeks), TRT 1 (4w mark), TRT 2 (3w mark)</p><p></p><p>TT: 360, 367, 547, 985 (264-916)</p><p>FT: 7.3, 6.5, 8.1, 23.2 (8.7-25.1)</p><p>SHBG: N/A, 38, 63, NA (not measured but calculated from Albumin + TT/FT data)</p><p>DHEA: 258.3, NA, NA, NA</p><p>E2: 18.1, 14.1, NA, 44.6 (8-35) (first two with ECLIA method, last one with Sensitive, range for sensitive)</p><p>Estrogen Total: NA, 116, 124, NA (40-115)</p><p>Estrone Serum: NA, 57, 55, NA (12-72)</p><p>Lipids: NA, NA, OK- in range, NA (can post more details if you need)</p><p>Thyroid: not measured, something I now regret I didn't do in the Initial labs.</p><p></p><p>Protocol and sympthoms:</p><p>Initial: fatigue/no energy, brain fog, no libido, no muscle gain, bad sleep, no willingness for social interaction etc. + mild gyno!</p><p>TRT 1: Cream 50mg 1gram/mornings</p><p>-> gave me some energy (but not as steady as in TRT2 often fading towards evening) , slept better, no effects in libido, felt like could be still better overall. Labs taken 1.5h after cream application.</p><p>TRT 2: E3.5D Injections, 75mg/time</p><p>-> weeks 1-2 were rough, ups/downs, flu symptoms etc. but now in week 4 more steady energy, still sleep well but no libido. Gyno might be getting worse - hard to say so quickly! Labs taken 3.5d morning before injection.</p><p></p><p>What do you think I should try next? Libido is clearly a problem and I'm worried of the high E2/Gyno - they're likely connected together. I'm not too excited of starting with AI since it's another med to eat for possibly for the rest of the life then and I'm young..</p><p></p><p>I'm thinking of adding HCG into protocol, lowering the T dose a little + trying EOD injections? I know having the SHBG would help in deciding the protocol but it seems my FT went up quite well without going over 1000 with the TT and I'm thinking SHBG might not be that high anymore and I could better tolerate more frequent injections without in need to go for AI.</p><p></p><p>Thank you!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 25692, post: 123136, member: 25692"] 34yo male, 5′10, 185lb, low(ish) bodyfat, healthy diet, weight training 3-5/week I've read the stickies and I'm sorry I won't have all the required lab test results for you to provide. Still working this thing out with my doc who for some reason doesn't want to order too much labs so might have to switch or do my own labs in the future.. All below results labcorp, same location Initial 1, Initial 2 (after 4weeks), TRT 1 (4w mark), TRT 2 (3w mark) TT: 360, 367, 547, 985 (264-916) FT: 7.3, 6.5, 8.1, 23.2 (8.7-25.1) SHBG: N/A, 38, 63, NA (not measured but calculated from Albumin + TT/FT data) DHEA: 258.3, NA, NA, NA E2: 18.1, 14.1, NA, 44.6 (8-35) (first two with ECLIA method, last one with Sensitive, range for sensitive) Estrogen Total: NA, 116, 124, NA (40-115) Estrone Serum: NA, 57, 55, NA (12-72) Lipids: NA, NA, OK- in range, NA (can post more details if you need) Thyroid: not measured, something I now regret I didn't do in the Initial labs. Protocol and sympthoms: Initial: fatigue/no energy, brain fog, no libido, no muscle gain, bad sleep, no willingness for social interaction etc. + mild gyno! TRT 1: Cream 50mg 1gram/mornings -> gave me some energy (but not as steady as in TRT2 often fading towards evening) , slept better, no effects in libido, felt like could be still better overall. Labs taken 1.5h after cream application. TRT 2: E3.5D Injections, 75mg/time -> weeks 1-2 were rough, ups/downs, flu symptoms etc. but now in week 4 more steady energy, still sleep well but no libido. Gyno might be getting worse - hard to say so quickly! Labs taken 3.5d morning before injection. What do you think I should try next? Libido is clearly a problem and I'm worried of the high E2/Gyno - they're likely connected together. I'm not too excited of starting with AI since it's another med to eat for possibly for the rest of the life then and I'm young.. I'm thinking of adding HCG into protocol, lowering the T dose a little + trying EOD injections? I know having the SHBG would help in deciding the protocol but it seems my FT went up quite well without going over 1000 with the TT and I'm thinking SHBG might not be that high anymore and I could better tolerate more frequent injections without in need to go for AI. Thank you!! [/QUOTE]
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