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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Blood Test Discussion
700-1000 Total Test (labcorp) fluctuations (same protocol). Puzzled
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 191557" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>As you should very well know when getting blood work we always want to test at the true trough (lowest point) let alone using the same lab, assay (most accurate) LC/MS-MS for TT/e2 and Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration for FT.</p><p></p><p>Top it off with the fact that the protocol needs to remain consistent (dose T/injection frequency/time of injections) which can all have a big impact on blood work.</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">All my protocols were three times a week [testosterone cypionate] (Tue evening, Thu evening, Sat evening). Usually my blood would be collected on Thu morning, 10-13 hours before the next injection. Sometimes on Saturday or Tuesday.</span></p><p></p><p>This is all wrong.</p><p></p><p>If you are injecting 3x/week (Tue/Thu/Sat evening) then you should be having blood work done Tuesday evening before your injection which would be the true trough.</p><p></p><p>No point in comparing what TT level you achieve if labs were not done at the true trough every time.</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">PS. I noticed extreme fluctuations even before TRT when trying to keep the day of the week / time the same: 250, 350, 500 (three weeks in a row). Three years before that I'd do only one test a year, usually around 260-280</span></p><p></p><p>Lack of quality sleep, excess stress (mental/physical), whether one has fasted can all have a big impact on natty endogenous T levels.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>*In men using intramuscular testosterone (IM T), <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">clinical experience shows us that, <u>despite stable dosing and frequency,</u></span></strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"><strong><u> total testosterone peak (Tp) and trough (Tt) levels are highly variable</u></strong> </span></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/variance-in-peak-and-trough-testosterone-levels-in-men-using-intramuscular-testosterone.15977/[/URL]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure lab errors can happen now and then but doubtful it played any big part in your results.</p><p></p><p>Although TT is important to know keep in mind that FT is what truly matters as it is the active unbound fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 191557, member: 13851"] As you should very well know when getting blood work we always want to test at the true trough (lowest point) let alone using the same lab, assay (most accurate) LC/MS-MS for TT/e2 and Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration for FT. Top it off with the fact that the protocol needs to remain consistent (dose T/injection frequency/time of injections) which can all have a big impact on blood work. [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]All my protocols were three times a week [testosterone cypionate] (Tue evening, Thu evening, Sat evening). Usually my blood would be collected on Thu morning, 10-13 hours before the next injection. Sometimes on Saturday or Tuesday.[/COLOR] This is all wrong. If you are injecting 3x/week (Tue/Thu/Sat evening) then you should be having blood work done Tuesday evening before your injection which would be the true trough. No point in comparing what TT level you achieve if labs were not done at the true trough every time. [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]PS. I noticed extreme fluctuations even before TRT when trying to keep the day of the week / time the same: 250, 350, 500 (three weeks in a row). Three years before that I'd do only one test a year, usually around 260-280[/COLOR] Lack of quality sleep, excess stress (mental/physical), whether one has fasted can all have a big impact on natty endogenous T levels. [B]*In men using intramuscular testosterone (IM T), [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]clinical experience shows us that, [U]despite stable dosing and frequency,[/U][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)][B][U] total testosterone peak (Tp) and trough (Tt) levels are highly variable[/U][/B] [/COLOR] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/variance-in-peak-and-trough-testosterone-levels-in-men-using-intramuscular-testosterone.15977/[/URL] Sure lab errors can happen now and then but doubtful it played any big part in your results. Although TT is important to know keep in mind that FT is what truly matters as it is the active unbound fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects. [/QUOTE]
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