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62 y.o. with new dedication to hypoG control. Past TRT - current hCG monotherapy - many labs
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<blockquote data-quote="Re-Ride" data-source="post: 21010" data-attributes="member: 8395"><p>Thanks for pointing out that the free T4 is much less than would be expected. Already been to STTM... got traps set up in the forest out back now and harvesting critter thyroids just in case <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>The endo, in spite of his senior years, has taken an open-minded approach to hCG. It's pro'ly best not to challenge his peachy fine thyroid eval right now. He reluctantly ordered estradiol but then Rx-ed Arimidex right away which is a great indication that he'll eventually come around. Meanwhile I'll be look for another GP that will order what I ask for since the current one messaged me a warning to "stop reading that stuff on the net".</p><p></p><p>Insight I've gained since February: </p><p>- rule out thyroid before proceeding with TRT</p><p>- cycles and crashing; given the sporadic use of A-gel it's amazing that my 2/10/15 numbers were not worse. Never start TRT unless you know what PCT is. Consistency essential; slight adjustments followed by labs</p><p>- aromatase/E2 testing /belly fat</p><p>- gyno becomes fibrous and irreversible after a year</p><p>- proceed with caution least you end up as the "Estrogen Sex Slave" <a href="https://estrogendiaries.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/my-life-as-an-estrogen-sex-slave/" target="_blank">https://estrogendiaries.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/my-life-as-an-estrogen-sex-slave/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>2/10/15 ( off all supplementation)</p><p> tot T= 298, free=88</p><p>FSH=7.4</p><p> LH=3.4</p><p> FREE T4=8.1</p><p>Prolactin 7.9</p><p></p><p>25 HYDOXY D= <strong>22</strong> ( up from <strong>12 in May 2014</strong> ) June 09 was <strong>25</strong></p><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: infoCol"][/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"][/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: srchbl, colspan: 4"]This Total 25-OHD assay measures the sum of 25-hydroxy (D2 and D3) vitamin D <br /> metabolites. Therapy indications are based on Total 25-OHD, as follows: <br /> Deficiency: Less than 20 ng/mL<br /> Insufficiency: 20-29 ng/mL[/TD]</p></td></tr></table> Magnesium =2.2</p><p> IGF I Somatomedin C=316H (41 - 279 ng/ml), </p><p></p><p>PSA= <strong>1.84</strong> on 8/2012 then <strong>0.64</strong> on 5/21/15 </p><p></p><p>KIDNEY 1/22/15: </p><p>Creatinine= <strong>0.68</strong> mg/dL (0.60 - 1.10 )IDMS-traceable method</p><p>history: 11/10/13... 5/21/14...1/22/15...5/21/15</p><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>[TH="class: scroll"][/TH]<br /> [TH="class: scroll"][/TH]<br /> [TH="class: scroll"][/TH]<br /> [TH="class: scroll"] CR 0.63 0.61 0.68 0.69[/TH]</p></td></tr></table>GFR 107 108 103 102</p><p><strong>CR is barely within range. Any problem with this? </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>GFR Est-Other >60 See Cmnt <strong>103</strong> </p><p>GFR Est-African American >60 See Cmnt 119 </p><p>Units: mL/min/1.73 m2. Estimated glomerular filtration rate values are</p><p>calculated using the CKD-EPI equation.</p><p></p><p>5/21/15:</p><p> Hemoglobin A1c =<strong>5.0</strong> (4.8 - 5.6 %) </p><p>Average Glucose 97</p><p>past results: 12/03/14 A1c= <strong>5.4</strong> glu=108</p><p></p><p>Zinc= <strong>126</strong> (60 - 130 ug/dL) on 6/09/15</p><p></p><p>6/09/15: </p><p>DHEA-S: High! but I was on oral supplementation (brand Extenze ) for the prior few weeks. Discontinued on 6/10</p><p> <strong>DHEA Sulfate = 442H </strong>(25 - 95 ug/dL for 60-69y.0) 442 H</p><p></p><p>CHOLESTEROL: Tested Aug 2012 //Dec 2014 // May 21 2015 ( 6 weeks on hCG)</p><p></p><p>Downward trend on Lovaza and diet mod. : 222(2012) 223( Dec 2014) 212(May 21,2015)</p><p>HDL= 43/44/45 unchanged on hCG</p><p>LDL: 138 H(2012) 143(dec2014) <strong>131</strong> H =May 2015, decreased after 6 weeks on hCG</p><p>VDL Calculated: <strong>40 37 35</strong></p><p>Triglycerides: <strong>8 point drop on hCG</strong> but it was trending lower. <strong>201/185/173 </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>note: meds known to cause high trigs discontinued June 2015 after decades of use. </p><p></p><p>Comp Metabolic Panel 5/21/15: nothing flagged</p><p></p><p>Fasting Blood Sugar: Glucose, Fasting 70 - 99 mg/dL <strong>100H</strong> on 12/03/14 ... improved to <strong>90</strong>(5/21/15) <strong>after six weeks hCG w/0 any diet mod or medicine changes. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>OLD Comp Panel from 11/10/2013 1 pm:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]WBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]4.0 - 11.0 K/uL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]7.8[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]4.40 - 6.00 M/uL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]4.74[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Hemoglobin[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]13.5 - 18.0 g/dL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]15.0[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Hematocrit[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]40.0 - 52.0 %<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]43.0[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCV[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]80 - 100 fL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]91[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCH[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]27.0 - 33.0 pg<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]31.6[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCHC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]31.0 - 36.0 g/dL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]34.9[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RDW[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]<16.4 %<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]13.1[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Platelet Count[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]150 - 400 K/uL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]178[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Differential Type[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"][/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]Automated[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Neutrophil %[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]49.0 - 74.0 %<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]48[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>L</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Lymphocyte %[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]26.0 - 46.0 %<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]44[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Monocyte %[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]2.0 - 12.0 %<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]6[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Eosinophil %[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 5.0 %<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]2[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Basophil %[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 2.0 %<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]0[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Neutrophil[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]2.0 - 8.0 K/uL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]3.6[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Lymphocyte[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]1.0 - 5.1 K/uL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]3.5[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Monocyte[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 0.8 K/uL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]0.5[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Eosinophil[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 0.5 K/uL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]0.2[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Basophil[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 0.2 K/uL<br /> [/TD]<br /> [TD="class: importantCol"]0.0[/TD]</p></td><td></td></tr></table> Collected:11/10/2013 1:07 PM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Re-Ride, post: 21010, member: 8395"] Thanks for pointing out that the free T4 is much less than would be expected. Already been to STTM... got traps set up in the forest out back now and harvesting critter thyroids just in case :) :) The endo, in spite of his senior years, has taken an open-minded approach to hCG. It's pro'ly best not to challenge his peachy fine thyroid eval right now. He reluctantly ordered estradiol but then Rx-ed Arimidex right away which is a great indication that he'll eventually come around. Meanwhile I'll be look for another GP that will order what I ask for since the current one messaged me a warning to "stop reading that stuff on the net". Insight I've gained since February: - rule out thyroid before proceeding with TRT - cycles and crashing; given the sporadic use of A-gel it's amazing that my 2/10/15 numbers were not worse. Never start TRT unless you know what PCT is. Consistency essential; slight adjustments followed by labs - aromatase/E2 testing /belly fat - gyno becomes fibrous and irreversible after a year - proceed with caution least you end up as the "Estrogen Sex Slave" [URL]https://estrogendiaries.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/my-life-as-an-estrogen-sex-slave/[/URL] 2/10/15 ( off all supplementation) tot T= 298, free=88 FSH=7.4 LH=3.4 FREE T4=8.1 Prolactin 7.9 25 HYDOXY D= [B]22[/B] ( up from [B]12 in May 2014[/B] ) June 09 was [B]25[/B] [TABLE] [TR="class: odd alertItem"] [TD="class: infoCol"][/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: tableRowMessage comments odd"] [TD="class: srchbl, colspan: 4"]This Total 25-OHD assay measures the sum of 25-hydroxy (D2 and D3) vitamin D metabolites. Therapy indications are based on Total 25-OHD, as follows: Deficiency: Less than 20 ng/mL Insufficiency: 20-29 ng/mL[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Magnesium =2.2 IGF I Somatomedin C=316H (41 - 279 ng/ml), PSA= [B]1.84[/B] on 8/2012 then [B]0.64[/B] on 5/21/15 KIDNEY 1/22/15: Creatinine= [B]0.68[/B] mg/dL (0.60 - 1.10 )IDMS-traceable method history: 11/10/13... 5/21/14...1/22/15...5/21/15 [TABLE] [TR="class: header bottomheader"] [TH="class: scroll"][/TH] [TH="class: scroll"][/TH] [TH="class: scroll"][/TH] [TH="class: scroll"] CR 0.63 0.61 0.68 0.69[/TH] [/TR] [/TABLE] GFR 107 108 103 102 [B]CR is barely within range. Any problem with this? [/B] GFR Est-Other >60 See Cmnt [B]103[/B] GFR Est-African American >60 See Cmnt 119 Units: mL/min/1.73 m2. Estimated glomerular filtration rate values are calculated using the CKD-EPI equation. 5/21/15: Hemoglobin A1c =[B]5.0[/B] (4.8 - 5.6 %) Average Glucose 97 past results: 12/03/14 A1c= [B]5.4[/B] glu=108 Zinc= [B]126[/B] (60 - 130 ug/dL) on 6/09/15 6/09/15: DHEA-S: High! but I was on oral supplementation (brand Extenze ) for the prior few weeks. Discontinued on 6/10 [B]DHEA Sulfate = 442H [/B](25 - 95 ug/dL for 60-69y.0) 442 H CHOLESTEROL: Tested Aug 2012 //Dec 2014 // May 21 2015 ( 6 weeks on hCG) Downward trend on Lovaza and diet mod. : 222(2012) 223( Dec 2014) 212(May 21,2015) HDL= 43/44/45 unchanged on hCG LDL: 138 H(2012) 143(dec2014) [B]131[/B] H =May 2015, decreased after 6 weeks on hCG VDL Calculated: [B]40 37 35[/B] Triglycerides: [B]8 point drop on hCG[/B] but it was trending lower. [B]201/185/173 [/B] note: meds known to cause high trigs discontinued June 2015 after decades of use. Comp Metabolic Panel 5/21/15: nothing flagged Fasting Blood Sugar: Glucose, Fasting 70 - 99 mg/dL [B]100H[/B] on 12/03/14 ... improved to [B]90[/B](5/21/15) [B]after six weeks hCG w/0 any diet mod or medicine changes. OLD Comp Panel from 11/10/2013 1 pm: [/B] [TABLE] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]WBC[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]4.0 - 11.0 K/uL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]7.8[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RBC[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]4.40 - 6.00 M/uL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]4.74[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Hemoglobin[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]13.5 - 18.0 g/dL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]15.0[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Hematocrit[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]40.0 - 52.0 % [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]43.0[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCV[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]80 - 100 fL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]91[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCH[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]27.0 - 33.0 pg [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]31.6[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCHC[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]31.0 - 36.0 g/dL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]34.9[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RDW[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]<16.4 % [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]13.1[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Platelet Count[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]150 - 400 K/uL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]178[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Differential Type[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"][/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]Automated[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd alertItem"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Neutrophil %[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]49.0 - 74.0 % [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]48[/TD] [TD]L[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Lymphocyte %[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]26.0 - 46.0 % [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]44[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Monocyte %[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]2.0 - 12.0 % [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]6[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Eosinophil %[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 5.0 % [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]2[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Basophil %[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 2.0 % [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]0[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Neutrophil[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]2.0 - 8.0 K/uL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]3.6[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Lymphocyte[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]1.0 - 5.1 K/uL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]3.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Monocyte[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 0.8 K/uL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]0.5[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Eosinophil[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 0.5 K/uL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]0.2[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Abs Basophil[/TD] [TD="class: infoCol"]0.0 - 0.2 K/uL [/TD] [TD="class: importantCol"]0.0[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Collected:11/10/2013 1:07 PM [/QUOTE]
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