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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
6 weeks clean & sober! Stopped TRT.
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<blockquote data-quote="stx359" data-source="post: 133392" data-attributes="member: 19129"><p>Apologies for not responding to you sooner. I am not always a frequent flyer on here.</p><p></p><p>You lost me on your cancer argument. Cancer patients undergo chemotherapy after they have received a definitive diagnosis and they do so to save their life. You never received a definitive diagnosis for anything. Granted one can argue that the diagnostic threshold for low T is far too low at 350 but no doctor would ever diagnose you with low T with a total in the 600's free T notwithstanding. To use your analogy your case would be tantamount to being prescribed chemotherapy when you have not been diagnosed with cancer.</p><p></p><p>As for clinics I am not here to advocate for any one clinic so I won't answer your question on that. Yes every clinic is there to make money but legitimate medical doctors tend to choose a reimbursement model that involves billing you for services rendered, not signing you up for a 12 month contract that includes an up front fee for your initial visit and hundreds a month. The only thing I would advocate is that people who think they might be candidates for TRT research reputable endocrinologists in their community, undergo a medical workup and get the best advice they can from someone who is not trying to sign them up to a "plan." They can always move to a testosterone mill for their next step if they are unhappy with the result they will just be better informed. I am only speaking as someone who has been down the testosterone mill route. Trust me I am no expert I have been victimized as many have.</p><p></p><p>Finally your "No worries I have gobs of money argument" applies to very few. Even those of us who make a handsome living owe our wealth to the fact that we do not part with several thousand dollars lightly. I am happy for you and your financial state and believe that your hobby is a very good reason to spend money. If you have no issue with paying a a clinic several thousand dollars for no reason that is your right. Most would disagree. My original post wasn't really for you. You are obviously a very happy customer and I will not change your mind. The post was for all the guys on here who are debating TRT and don't know what to do - a position we were all in at one time. I think your case is very informative to them. I know I found it interesting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stx359, post: 133392, member: 19129"] Apologies for not responding to you sooner. I am not always a frequent flyer on here. You lost me on your cancer argument. Cancer patients undergo chemotherapy after they have received a definitive diagnosis and they do so to save their life. You never received a definitive diagnosis for anything. Granted one can argue that the diagnostic threshold for low T is far too low at 350 but no doctor would ever diagnose you with low T with a total in the 600's free T notwithstanding. To use your analogy your case would be tantamount to being prescribed chemotherapy when you have not been diagnosed with cancer. As for clinics I am not here to advocate for any one clinic so I won't answer your question on that. Yes every clinic is there to make money but legitimate medical doctors tend to choose a reimbursement model that involves billing you for services rendered, not signing you up for a 12 month contract that includes an up front fee for your initial visit and hundreds a month. The only thing I would advocate is that people who think they might be candidates for TRT research reputable endocrinologists in their community, undergo a medical workup and get the best advice they can from someone who is not trying to sign them up to a "plan." They can always move to a testosterone mill for their next step if they are unhappy with the result they will just be better informed. I am only speaking as someone who has been down the testosterone mill route. Trust me I am no expert I have been victimized as many have. Finally your "No worries I have gobs of money argument" applies to very few. Even those of us who make a handsome living owe our wealth to the fact that we do not part with several thousand dollars lightly. I am happy for you and your financial state and believe that your hobby is a very good reason to spend money. If you have no issue with paying a a clinic several thousand dollars for no reason that is your right. Most would disagree. My original post wasn't really for you. You are obviously a very happy customer and I will not change your mind. The post was for all the guys on here who are debating TRT and don't know what to do - a position we were all in at one time. I think your case is very informative to them. I know I found it interesting. [/QUOTE]
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