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4 week results with HCG mono therapy for secondary case
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<blockquote data-quote="nickdavid712" data-source="post: 116454" data-attributes="member: 18581"><p>21 year old male... started HCG mono therapy with 1,000IU 2x per week. Had bloodwork re-tested after 4 weeks the results are as follows.</p><p></p><p>Labs pre HCG on 4/21/18</p><p></p><p>Testosterone total- <strong>49ng/dL </strong>range: 240-950ng/dL</p><p>Testosterone free -<strong>0.78ng/dL</strong> range: 5.25-20.7ng/dL</p><p>SHBG- <strong>72 nmol/L</strong> range: 17-56 nmol/L</p><p>LH- <strong>1.3IU/L</strong> range: 1.7-8.6IU/L</p><p>FSH- <strong>0.6IU/L</strong> range: 1.5-12.4IU/L</p><p><span style="color: #333333">ESTRADIOL <strong><15</strong> < OR = 39 pg/mL</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><table class='post-table class: components, width: 1160' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]WBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]4.40 K/uL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]4.00 - 10.00 K/uL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]4.09 M/uL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]4.50 - 6.40 M/uL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]HGB[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]12.7 g/dL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]13.5 - 18.0 g/dL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]HCT[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]39.0 %[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]40.0 - 54.0 %[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]PLT[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]150 K/uL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]150 - 450 K/uL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCV[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]95.4 fL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]80.0 - 95.0 fL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCH[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]31.1 pg[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]27.0 - 32.0 pg[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCHC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]32.6 g/dL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]32.0 - 36.0 g/dL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RDW[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]14.3 %[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]11.5 - 14.5 %[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MPV[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]9.4 fl[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]8.4 - 12.0 fl[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]NRBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]0.00 /100 WBCs[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]0.00 /100 WBCs[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]ABSOLUTE NRBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]0.00 K/uL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]0.00 K/uL[/TD]</p></td></tr></table></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p></p><p>Labs after 4 weeks of HCG mono therapy</p><p></p><p>Testosterone total- 571ng/dL range:249-836ng/dL</p><p>SHBG- 71nmol/L range 17-56nmol/L</p><p>LH- <0.1IU/L range: 1.7-8.6IU/L</p><p>FSH-<0.1IU/L range: 1.5-12.4IU/L</p><p>estradiol- 36pg/mL range:27-52pg/mL</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><table class='post-table class: components, width: 1160' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]WBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]4.25 K/uL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]4.00 - 10.00 K/uL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]4.16 M/uL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]4.50 - 6.40 M/uL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]HGB[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]13.0 g/dL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]13.5 - 18.0 g/dL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]HCT[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]39.5 %[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]40.0 - 54.0 %[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]PLT[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]147 K/uL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]150 - 450 K/uL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCV[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]95.0 fL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]80.0 - 95.0 fL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCH[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]31.3 pg[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]27.0 - 32.0 pg[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCHC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]32.9 g/dL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]32.0 - 36.0 g/dL[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RDW[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]14.1 %[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]11.5 - 14.5 %[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MPV[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]8.9 fl[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]8.4 - 12.0 fl[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]NRBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]0.00 /100 WBCs[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]0 /100 WBCs[/TD]</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]ABSOLUTE NRBC[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: valueCol"]0.00 K/uL[/TD]<br /> [TD="class: rangeCol"]0 K/uL[/TD]</p></td></tr></table></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p></p><p>What would you make out of these labs/moving forward treatment wise? </p><p>No free testosterone was done, however, with the high SHBG we can assume it was low? I have no major improvements in symptoms even though my testosterone has increased but I assume it is because my high SHBG? Is there any way to decrease SHBG? Would switching to TRT be my only option?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nickdavid712, post: 116454, member: 18581"] 21 year old male... started HCG mono therapy with 1,000IU 2x per week. Had bloodwork re-tested after 4 weeks the results are as follows. Labs pre HCG on 4/21/18 Testosterone total- [B]49ng/dL [/B]range: 240-950ng/dL Testosterone free -[B]0.78ng/dL[/B] range: 5.25-20.7ng/dL SHBG- [B]72 nmol/L[/B] range: 17-56 nmol/L LH- [B]1.3IU/L[/B] range: 1.7-8.6IU/L FSH- [B]0.6IU/L[/B] range: 1.5-12.4IU/L [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Consolas]ESTRADIOL [B]<15[/B] < OR = 39 pg/mL[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue][TABLE="class: components, width: 1160"] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]WBC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]4.40 K/uL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]4.00 - 10.00 K/uL[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RBC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]4.09 M/uL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]4.50 - 6.40 M/uL[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]HGB[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]12.7 g/dL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]13.5 - 18.0 g/dL[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]HCT[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]39.0 %[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]40.0 - 54.0 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]PLT[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]150 K/uL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]150 - 450 K/uL[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCV[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]95.4 fL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]80.0 - 95.0 fL[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCH[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]31.1 pg[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]27.0 - 32.0 pg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCHC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]32.6 g/dL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]32.0 - 36.0 g/dL[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RDW[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]14.3 %[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]11.5 - 14.5 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MPV[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]9.4 fl[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]8.4 - 12.0 fl[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]NRBC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]0.00 /100 WBCs[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]0.00 /100 WBCs[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]ABSOLUTE NRBC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]0.00 K/uL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]0.00 K/uL[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue][/FONT][/COLOR] Labs after 4 weeks of HCG mono therapy Testosterone total- 571ng/dL range:249-836ng/dL SHBG- 71nmol/L range 17-56nmol/L LH- <0.1IU/L range: 1.7-8.6IU/L FSH-<0.1IU/L range: 1.5-12.4IU/L estradiol- 36pg/mL range:27-52pg/mL [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue][TABLE="class: components, width: 1160"] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]WBC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]4.25 K/uL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]4.00 - 10.00 K/uL[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RBC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]4.16 M/uL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]4.50 - 6.40 M/uL[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]HGB[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]13.0 g/dL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]13.5 - 18.0 g/dL[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]HCT[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]39.5 %[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]40.0 - 54.0 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]PLT[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]147 K/uL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]150 - 450 K/uL[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCV[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]95.0 fL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]80.0 - 95.0 fL[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCH[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]31.3 pg[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]27.0 - 32.0 pg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCHC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]32.9 g/dL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]32.0 - 36.0 g/dL[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RDW[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]14.1 %[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]11.5 - 14.5 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MPV[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]8.9 fl[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]8.4 - 12.0 fl[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: odd"] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]NRBC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]0.00 /100 WBCs[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]0 /100 WBCs[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]ABSOLUTE NRBC[/TD] [TD="class: valueCol"]0.00 K/uL[/TD] [TD="class: rangeCol"]0 K/uL[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue][/FONT][/COLOR] What would you make out of these labs/moving forward treatment wise? No free testosterone was done, however, with the high SHBG we can assume it was low? I have no major improvements in symptoms even though my testosterone has increased but I assume it is because my high SHBG? Is there any way to decrease SHBG? Would switching to TRT be my only option? [/QUOTE]
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