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28 y/o Bloodwork Results, to TRT or not to TRT
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<blockquote data-quote="Andrewgen_Receptors" data-source="post: 222957" data-attributes="member: 43829"><p>New user to this forum, posted labs on another forum but was interested in additional opinions.</p><p></p><p>I've been lifting for the better part of 12 years; reasonably strong for someone who trains hypertrophy goals.</p><p><strong>Stats:</strong></p><p>Age: 28</p><p>Height: 5'9</p><p>Weight: ~215</p><p>BF%: 15-20% (visible 4-pack in the right lighting lol)</p><p>Bench: 275x5 (incline, I don't do flat bench to avoid pec tears (close-call a couple years back))</p><p>Squat: 405x5</p><p>Deadlift: 495x5</p><p></p><p><strong>Symptoms:</strong></p><p>Dick works fine, no ED, just low libido. Irritable most of the time, sometimes feel like riding in the backseat when I'm really more comfortable being dominant. Tired all the time (diagnosed hypersomnia) possibly due to Sleep Apnea (diagnosed OSA) but I use my CPAP 4hrs a night average. Strength is doing okay, not progressing a lot - but I am on the far end of muscular development as is so maybe a nonfactor. Focus is okay sometimes but even with prescription Adderall I find myself focusing on the wrong stuff sometimes, putting off important tasks for shit that doesn't really matter that much comparatively. Have been cutting since November but started hitting a weight loss roadblock while in a 1,000cal daily deficit (eating 2,000cal daily, 25%carb, 35%fat, 40%protein). Went from 235lb down to current weight so ~20lbs give or take.</p><p></p><p><strong>Lifestyle:</strong></p><p>I work 10 hour days 4-5 days a week (9/80 schedule) with 2 hours of daily commute, occasionally 6 hours overtime on a weekend, and train hard usually 4x per week (when I say hard, I mean I train to failure for half of my training and leave drenched in sweat - even on the days I go easy). I have blended University classes for a BS in Computer Information Systems and I should be graduating in about 14 months... This usually involves ~20hrs weekly schoolwork, pending difficulty of classes. When I'm not at work, the gym, or doing schoolwork, I spend time with my wife and daughter (5yrs). I eat very healthy - almost never any fast food or restaurants, and maybe a few alcoholic drinks a year... no smoking, no pre-workout, or any other supplements except Curcumin, daily vitamins, and a protein powder. Stress levels are <em>okay</em>, but only okay; finances and burdens of being a single-provider home along with a stressful job and college courses - all of which are unavoidable at the moment.</p><p></p><p>A few years ago I went on a 2 month Rad140 cycle and saw significant muscle mass improvements (>20lbs), only side effect was increased aggression. Tried YK11 a couple months later and had nothing but side effects (cycstic back-acne when I rarely have bacne to start with). Haven't touched any SARMs or prohormones since.</p><p></p><p><strong>Sleep:</strong></p><p>I try hard to get 7 hours of sleep, but most nights I find myself with 6.5 hours of time in bed. I track my sleep with a sleep tracker + CPAP and both show I averaged 5hr 34m sleep a night, and that's with 8-9 hours a night on weekends. I have done about everything I can to improve sleep quality (no melatonin or other sleep aids because I rarely have 8+ hours to dedicate to sleep, so they make me wake up even more tired). </p><p></p><p><strong>Labs:</strong></p><p>Had labs drawn back in December of '21 because I was feeling like I might be low T, and because it would obviously help me with physique goals as well.</p><p><strong><img src="https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/4/a/c/4ac290339a29d5661f33255e9e60f9068f760313.png" class="bbImage" alt="" data-url="https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/4/a/c/4ac290339a29d5661f33255e9e60f9068f760313.png" style="" /></strong></p><p><img src="https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/b/e/9/be9599841b4abd95914129054147bb79791753ee.png" class="bbImage" alt="" data-url="https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/b/e/9/be9599841b4abd95914129054147bb79791753ee.png" style="" /></p><p><img src="https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/2/6/b/26b4141b5b681143d26915ea10de78fce251a322.png" class="bbImage" alt="" data-url="https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/2/6/b/26b4141b5b681143d26915ea10de78fce251a322.png" style="" /></p><p><img src="https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/b/6/f/b6f9f1d8aec0ca002dabd5770e4f6cf07d0728f1.png" class="bbImage" alt="" data-url="https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/b/6/f/b6f9f1d8aec0ca002dabd5770e4f6cf07d0728f1.png" style="" /></p><p><strong>Calculated Free T: 9.23 ng/dL</strong></p><p><strong>Calculated Bioavailable T: 231 ng/dL</strong></p><p><em>Apologies, no LH/FSH available</em></p><p></p><p>I've been considering this for some time now and I'm not sure what the right path is for me to be honest. I would love to have some symptom relief, and the obvious answer is to sleep more and reduce stress - both of which are a bit fruitless in my current lifestyle. I'm not sure if it's worthwhile to risk shutdown for a situation that may be resolved in about 18 months or, but I also might find myself still in need of symptom relief once the current situation is over too.</p><p></p><p>My cautious side is telling me to wait, but my impatient side is telling me just to jump on TRT already.</p><p></p><p><strong>Thoughts?</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andrewgen_Receptors, post: 222957, member: 43829"] New user to this forum, posted labs on another forum but was interested in additional opinions. I've been lifting for the better part of 12 years; reasonably strong for someone who trains hypertrophy goals. [B]Stats:[/B] Age: 28 Height: 5'9 Weight: ~215 BF%: 15-20% (visible 4-pack in the right lighting lol) Bench: 275x5 (incline, I don't do flat bench to avoid pec tears (close-call a couple years back)) Squat: 405x5 Deadlift: 495x5 [B]Symptoms:[/B] Dick works fine, no ED, just low libido. Irritable most of the time, sometimes feel like riding in the backseat when I'm really more comfortable being dominant. Tired all the time (diagnosed hypersomnia) possibly due to Sleep Apnea (diagnosed OSA) but I use my CPAP 4hrs a night average. Strength is doing okay, not progressing a lot - but I am on the far end of muscular development as is so maybe a nonfactor. Focus is okay sometimes but even with prescription Adderall I find myself focusing on the wrong stuff sometimes, putting off important tasks for shit that doesn't really matter that much comparatively. Have been cutting since November but started hitting a weight loss roadblock while in a 1,000cal daily deficit (eating 2,000cal daily, 25%carb, 35%fat, 40%protein). Went from 235lb down to current weight so ~20lbs give or take. [B]Lifestyle:[/B] I work 10 hour days 4-5 days a week (9/80 schedule) with 2 hours of daily commute, occasionally 6 hours overtime on a weekend, and train hard usually 4x per week (when I say hard, I mean I train to failure for half of my training and leave drenched in sweat - even on the days I go easy). I have blended University classes for a BS in Computer Information Systems and I should be graduating in about 14 months... This usually involves ~20hrs weekly schoolwork, pending difficulty of classes. When I'm not at work, the gym, or doing schoolwork, I spend time with my wife and daughter (5yrs). I eat very healthy - almost never any fast food or restaurants, and maybe a few alcoholic drinks a year... no smoking, no pre-workout, or any other supplements except Curcumin, daily vitamins, and a protein powder. Stress levels are [I]okay[/I], but only okay; finances and burdens of being a single-provider home along with a stressful job and college courses - all of which are unavoidable at the moment. A few years ago I went on a 2 month Rad140 cycle and saw significant muscle mass improvements (>20lbs), only side effect was increased aggression. Tried YK11 a couple months later and had nothing but side effects (cycstic back-acne when I rarely have bacne to start with). Haven't touched any SARMs or prohormones since. [B]Sleep:[/B] I try hard to get 7 hours of sleep, but most nights I find myself with 6.5 hours of time in bed. I track my sleep with a sleep tracker + CPAP and both show I averaged 5hr 34m sleep a night, and that's with 8-9 hours a night on weekends. I have done about everything I can to improve sleep quality (no melatonin or other sleep aids because I rarely have 8+ hours to dedicate to sleep, so they make me wake up even more tired). [B]Labs:[/B] Had labs drawn back in December of '21 because I was feeling like I might be low T, and because it would obviously help me with physique goals as well. [B][IMG]https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/4/a/c/4ac290339a29d5661f33255e9e60f9068f760313.png[/IMG][/B] [IMG]https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/b/e/9/be9599841b4abd95914129054147bb79791753ee.png[/IMG] [IMG]https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/2/6/b/26b4141b5b681143d26915ea10de78fce251a322.png[/IMG] [IMG]https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/tnation/uploads/default/original/4X/b/6/f/b6f9f1d8aec0ca002dabd5770e4f6cf07d0728f1.png[/IMG] [B]Calculated Free T: 9.23 ng/dL Calculated Bioavailable T: 231 ng/dL[/B] [I]Apologies, no LH/FSH available[/I] I've been considering this for some time now and I'm not sure what the right path is for me to be honest. I would love to have some symptom relief, and the obvious answer is to sleep more and reduce stress - both of which are a bit fruitless in my current lifestyle. I'm not sure if it's worthwhile to risk shutdown for a situation that may be resolved in about 18 months or, but I also might find myself still in need of symptom relief once the current situation is over too. My cautious side is telling me to wait, but my impatient side is telling me just to jump on TRT already. [B]Thoughts?[/B] [/QUOTE]
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