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15 weeks into protocol change, still not feeling well.. advice?
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<blockquote data-quote="Blackhawk" data-source="post: 198787" data-attributes="member: 16042"><p>I agree with Madman from your previous thread that you were put on a bad protocol (200mg 1/week + excessive AI and HCG), by a doctor who is ignorant of how to actually manage TRT that works. Now you are suffering the consequences of trying to self manage your way out of that. This is an all too common thing which many members here have had to deal with. You are in good company, and it seems making some of the same mistakes some of us also have in the past.</p><p></p><p>I also agree with him that you are taking too much T.</p><p></p><p>And an added issue that plays in with that is your SHBG. You told me it is 19. This complicates the story. It means you need to consider dosing frequency as well as total dose. It likely sets you up nicely for LOWER DOSES OF TESTOSTERONE MORE FREQUENTLY aiming for around 100mg/week for starters. Some low SHBG forum members have done better at surprisingly low levels down to ~8mg daily.</p><p></p><p>So, it sounds to me like you're on a couple of roller coasters:</p><p></p><p>1-that your 2/week T injections are not evening out the Free T roller coaster, even with the free T way too high at trough.</p><p></p><p>2- E2 follows T, so you are suffering the effects of both having too much and the fluctuation 2x/week. </p><p></p><p>3: Playing with 0.5mg doses of anastrozole can put you on yet another roller coaster. That's a mighty dose. You didn't say how often you are taking it. If you are once a week, the 40-50 hr half life puts you on a roller coaster again. 0.5mg will hit hard, then lose effectiveness over a week's time. 2x/week is much better, but at much less per dose.</p><p></p><p>For me, once again EOD was a nice schedule. I am not you, and what has worked for me in this regard probably won't work for you, especially in your current T dosage, but When I was on anastrozole it was at 0.06-0.07mg per dose... yes hundredths, EOD, so from 0.21 to 0.245 mg per week. It did the job and was steady, as was my EOD protocol for T.</p><p></p><p>And, adjusting AI is also a process that you have to monitor with labs. chasing E2 based on your symptoms is futile. If you misintepret low E2 as high and dose anastrozole, you crash your E2. Some members have really done themselves up doing this.</p><p></p><p>I am glad you are getting on board with Defy. Dr Saya helped me out of a similar predicament after his initial prescribed dose turned out to be too much for me. It seems you are repeating my history LOL!</p><p></p><p>Hang in there buddy. You'll get through it!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackhawk, post: 198787, member: 16042"] I agree with Madman from your previous thread that you were put on a bad protocol (200mg 1/week + excessive AI and HCG), by a doctor who is ignorant of how to actually manage TRT that works. Now you are suffering the consequences of trying to self manage your way out of that. This is an all too common thing which many members here have had to deal with. You are in good company, and it seems making some of the same mistakes some of us also have in the past. I also agree with him that you are taking too much T. And an added issue that plays in with that is your SHBG. You told me it is 19. This complicates the story. It means you need to consider dosing frequency as well as total dose. It likely sets you up nicely for LOWER DOSES OF TESTOSTERONE MORE FREQUENTLY aiming for around 100mg/week for starters. Some low SHBG forum members have done better at surprisingly low levels down to ~8mg daily. So, it sounds to me like you're on a couple of roller coasters: 1-that your 2/week T injections are not evening out the Free T roller coaster, even with the free T way too high at trough. 2- E2 follows T, so you are suffering the effects of both having too much and the fluctuation 2x/week. 3: Playing with 0.5mg doses of anastrozole can put you on yet another roller coaster. That's a mighty dose. You didn't say how often you are taking it. If you are once a week, the 40-50 hr half life puts you on a roller coaster again. 0.5mg will hit hard, then lose effectiveness over a week's time. 2x/week is much better, but at much less per dose. For me, once again EOD was a nice schedule. I am not you, and what has worked for me in this regard probably won't work for you, especially in your current T dosage, but When I was on anastrozole it was at 0.06-0.07mg per dose... yes hundredths, EOD, so from 0.21 to 0.245 mg per week. It did the job and was steady, as was my EOD protocol for T. And, adjusting AI is also a process that you have to monitor with labs. chasing E2 based on your symptoms is futile. If you misintepret low E2 as high and dose anastrozole, you crash your E2. Some members have really done themselves up doing this. I am glad you are getting on board with Defy. Dr Saya helped me out of a similar predicament after his initial prescribed dose turned out to be too much for me. It seems you are repeating my history LOL! Hang in there buddy. You'll get through it! [/QUOTE]
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