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Off topic madman, but you know your stuff! What’s your thoughts on healthiest way to live longest while maintaining some decent lean muscle, ie, like a goal of TT around 1100, or more like 600 and be meh but live a longer life?

Right but brand vs generic pharma grade, generics can be a bit off sometimes , up to 20% variance...

So for me, I see a difference in my labs using compounded testosterone vs branded depot testosterone, but is there a difference between brand and generic testosterone cyp?

Whatever it was I can’t remember, 100 mcg? Then repeated a month later, LH was still zero

Where is the evidence of this? Most studies I read say increasing hct is associated with clots: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2817030/#:~:text=Hematocrit%20is%20one%20of%20the,factors%20adjacent%20to%20dysfunctional%20endothelium.

I’ve tried triptorelin, it did nothing for me

Yes I’m now on 80 mg test a week and do 500 hcg with 75 fsh EOD and dropped nandrolone Day 2 so far so I’ll check sperm monthly, and hopefully testicles start increasing in the next week or two

It’s a pharmacy

So I just checked my sperm count on 100 mg test a week, 100 mg nandrolone per week and I do 600 units hcg twice a week (1200 units weekly). I suspect the nandrolone is the culprit but not sure. I would think hcg would still make my testicles produce some sperm. (Age 45, on trt 10 years...

What’s your TT and free T on jatenzo?

Wait, are you on test plus clomid? Doses of both etc? If on T plus clomid, did your LH go up?

So even if using test prop 10 mg every morning, adding clomid at night will not increase LH, this is correct? I have had zero success with LH going above zero on trt with enclomiphene, clomid, kisspeptin or gonadorelin

Yes, agree with madman!

Yes to upping hcg, where are you getting FSH from? Revive is on back order for theirs

I believe he still is on it. @Cataceous ?

Actually cataceous increased his LH on testosterone as he pulses gonadorelin multiple times a day. Just FYI

Thank you! I get fsh through revive pharmacy but they are on back order

What would ideal doses of hcg plus FSH? I did in the past 100 test a week plus 750 hcg twice a week with 75 fsh twice a week. Didn’t notice a huge increase in volume of the testes

Ok I’ll stick with hcg plus fsh

Yes but mainly volume

I’ve tried test cyp at 80 mg a week plus enclomiphene and sublingual gonadorelin and my LH was zero I was thinking maybe switch to prop 10 mg qAM and do injectible gonadorelin at night, OR just stick with cyp and do hcg plus FSH

I was getting it from revive pharmacy but it’s on back order, does anyone have a pharmacy option for injectible FSH? Thanks

1500 hcg and 150 fsh total per week?

Why that high on the hcg? Also, think 150 a week of fsh is enough since my labs show a FSH level of 0.9?

Yes I’m on trt, 100 mg a week and hcg I do 500 units twice a week (1000 total for the week), I added 75 units fsh twice a week. I really don’t notice much of anything yet , testicles still same size. I’m on week 3 I believe… just got labs done and my FSH is .9 (low) so maybe I’ll double the...

Their formulary says FSH and in parentheses it says urofollitropin and it’s 1500 iu and I believe I paid 160 for it.

Got it from revive pharmacy I’ll start it next month, I’ll keep you posted with labs etc

I’m about to add fsh to my trt plus hcg to see if there are any changes to my labs or size of the testes… but OP, nothing in life is permanent except death

If you were looking for risk reduction but wanted to add decent gains, what would u rec? 200 x 16 weeks?

Madman, thanks for your input, very valuable! In your opinion, is there a healthy (or least risky way) to add nandrolone to a trt protocol? I’m on 90mg a week of test and my numbers are good, but wanted to add nandrolone to add more lean gains while minimizing androgenic effects (hair loss...

For me, I don’t see deca kick in until week 7-8