Great! I was thinking once a year doing 100 mg x 16-20 weeks then rest of year off to minimize the sides. Was looking for joint pain relief but also add on some lean gains
Any new info on nandrolone? Was looking to add 100 mg weekly along with my trt dose of 100 mg test a week…. Goal is lean gains, minimum androgenic sides, but also focus on longevity.
At first I did when I used clomid at night, but when I switched to enclomiphene and 400 mg kyzatrex bid I felt amazing… didn’t know my levels were over 2500 which is probably why
Appreciate it! Great input!
What’s you recommendation? Do kyzatrex 200 in am, enclomiphene at night? Or stay on test injections? I was looking for two things, one, less raise of my HCT, and second to stimulate natural LH so I don’t need hcg which then requires me to use an AI etc…
Let’s say someone can increase their LH by using enclomiphene at night and kyzatrex in am (studies show this is possible). ChatGPT says testicles will get larger with LH than with HCG cause enclomphine would increase LH and FSH and FSH would help growth along with the LH
Thoughts?
I’m going to retry the kyzatrex soon, this time 200 mg at 7 am so around 11 my TT will be around 1200, then dose another 200 around 1:30 pm and then enclomiphene at night. AI said my blood levels would look something like this:
Time
7:30 AM Dose
1:00 PM Dose
Total Level
07:30 AM
0
0...
I was not on any testosterone cypionate for maybe for 4 weeks prior, I was on 50 mg twice a week in the past.
So only on kyzatrex, 400 mg 8 am, 400 mg 1-2 pm, clomid 25 at 10 pm, all for over 3.5 weeks
Reason I did 400 twice a day was the study you posted that showed in 27 guys resulted in an...
Dirx was a horrible experience, I had to submit the info 3 times, they cancelled it each time, never gave an explanation. I would never use them again, I use revive now, much better
My HCT was 47.5 in my 20s, now at 46 and on trt for 6 years my HCT is 50.3 despite blood donation last month. I figure I’ll do another donation in 2 weeks. Then, I should take iron cause my ferritin is low, which seems counterproductive
What do you mean by your last statement? If you look at a few studies, 50 mg testosterone per week only lowered LH by 35%. My thought is having a baseline test say at 350-400ng/dL (from the 50 mg testosterone cypionate), then augmenting with kyzatrex at 7 am and 1 pm, while taking enclomiphene...
Well said. That’s why I switching to kyzatrex, my free T was well over the limit on 100 mg cyp per week. The doc told me to go up to 140 since my “dose was so low.” I’m now focused on longevity and seems healthier to have more natural peaks and troughs and normal free T levels
Yes. Thank you for that. My point though was if those guys had sub 800 levels, I’d hate to do half the dose, as I already feel tired and brain fog on the 400 bid regimen. I’m going to give it 2 more weeks then check labs. I’ll check right before my afternoon dose around 1pm, sound reasonable?
Agree.
Also I was basing my numbers off the article below where men taking 400 bid has TT of just under 800:
https://www.urologytimes.com/view/higher-initial-dose-of-oral-testosterone-undecanoate-appears-safe-efficacious
My thought process was LH I believe was 1.9 on the guys taking 400 bid so if I had the dosing spaced together during the day I would feel better then allow the enclomiphene to work better at night when I was lower. Ie I feel like there isn’t a great reason for me to take my kyzatrex at night...
I’m on kyzatrex, I take 200 mg at 7 am, 9 am, noon and 2 pm. My goal is to have stable levels through the day, then low levels while I sleep. I take 12.5 mg enclomiphene at 7 pm , so my goal is to increase my LH on this regimen …