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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thank you, Cataceous. I guess I read the Natesto study incorrectly.
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    I don't really like the idea of the gel in my nose several times a day. Nelson said he got headaches from it as well. Also, it doesn't appear to put testosterone in the higher levels according to the studies I looked at. They were showing people getting into the 400's on it and I was already...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    I don't really have specific concerns based on any studies. However, I just don't think it's something I want to use continuously. While it seems to have less side effects than Clomid, like you mentioned, it hasn't really had any long term testing for this purpose. I'm not sure how the body...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    As I mentioned a few posts back, I initially did a 5 week run on enclomiphene (approx 12 mg a day) and 1 250 iu hcg shot a week. Twice a week I also did a 10 to 15 mg preworkout testosterone base/propionate injection. This took me to a 869 total test and 148.6 pg/ml free test from dialysis. This...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Here's another thing and obviously one can't go by feel...but I feel fine in the morning when I'm waking up and have strong erections. If my trough was very low in the am, would I feel poorly and would I not have the erections? I don't know that answer. I can always do a morning blood test and...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Yes, It's in oil. Yes..hard to know the half life or active life exactly . I've heard from 4 hours up to 7 hours. Since the shots are painless, I could see even doing up to three a day if I had to. I also have some Andriol caps (test unedecoanate)..but I don't want to throw those in yet. trying...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Just a little update. A few weeks ago, I thought I would try some daily testosterone enanthate injections of about 10-12 mg so maybe have more "steady" levels as opposed to the fast acting blends of testosterone no ester and propionate. After about a week of the enanthate, I noticed testicular...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thought I would follow up on this thread. I did a little experiment with enclomiphene and a small amount of hcg every week. I used approx 12.5 mg enclomiphene a day and 1 250 iu shot of hcg a week. I did this for 5 weeks. My total test before starting was 470 and my free test (accurate dialysis...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    I hear you. Perhaps in the not too distant future, a healthy method of boosting hormones up into optimal levels without shutting down the body's own production will be discovered. Or...maybe that method already exists , but hasn't been thought of. I will look into resveratrol again..I took it...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    I haven't measured SHBG yet. 80 free test is low, when the range is 35-155 pg/ml?
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thank you. I'll look into that. I've used DHEA and Pregnenolone but not consistently over years.
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thank you. My A1C wasn't too bad. Glad to hear you've had a good experience with your TRT.
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    I hear so many stories of people that had initial great results, but then eventually didn't feel the same benefits and often felt worse. I have some theories on this . Perhaps, like many medications, the body quickly attenuates to the testosterone. Maybe it has to do with various receptors that...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    My testosterone was measured with this: Testosterone, Free (Dialysis) and Total (MS)...Is the dialysis not the right one for Free? This was the result TESTOSTERONE, FREE 80.0 NORMAL 35.0-155.0 pg/mL
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    TRT and Finasteride?

    There are people who claim to use it in small doses no more than twice a week. That seems to lower DHT and give some hair loss and prostate benefits without totally crushing your dht levels. However, it just may be anecdotal.
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    After more research and considering the replies on here, I think I will not go on TRT anytime soon. As far as my insulin resistance, I will continue to use Berberine, vandyl sulfate, chromium and maybe small doses of metformin along with cutting carbs to about 50 grams a day. I will also do...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    I was looking at some of the products at Empower Pharmacy and noticed they had a compounded nasal testosterone gel. Would you happen to know if it is virtually identical in terms of action to the Natesto brand? Also, and this may be slightly off topic, I know of someone who has a fairly unusual...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thanks. Very good info. I read a study a few month ago on the use of about 10 mg a day of testosterone propionate. Along with getting good total and free levels, it appeared to have little hematocrit elevation..which probably would worsen with higher doses. That was one of the methods I was...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thank you. I will really look into considering the Natesto. As far as the shorter half life of propionate, I thought that might be a good thing as far as not raising hematocrit to the degree that longer esters seem to do..which may explain why studies show the cream and gels forms of...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thank you very much. I will definitely try to get my Free test and SHBG through the proper assays.
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thanks for your answer. One of the main reasons I am considering it is due to the positive effects of testosterone on insulin resistance. I eat well and exercise and my morning blood sugars have been rising for the last 5 years or so to where they are often 115 or so. A positive diabetic...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    My blood panels always seem to show my thyroid values in good range. I think I'm ok there. Thanks for the suggestion.
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thank you for your answer. It's always good to hear some positive stories on TRT. I have some friends who have had very good experiences as well. And although it's not my main reason, my training is important to me as well.
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Did some reading up on Natesto and it sounds very interesting. Thank you for suggesting that.
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    Thank you for your answer. And I agree. I've been avoiding getting on for at least 5 years because I understand completely the ramifications of going on it. I am not sure if the free testosterone blood test utilizes what you mentioned. As far as the Nasal gel, Natesto..I would be surprised if it...
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    Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated

    I'm new to the forum and would like to possibly get some opinions on my situation. I am 58 years old and have considered going on TRT for several years. Between reading lots of information, talking to several highly knowledgeable people and researching this forum for many years, I feel like I am...
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