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    Whacky blood work, any ideas what happened?

    I have been on TRT for years with a break to make a baby. I can guess my numbers based on the dose and they have been really consistent. My standard dose has been 80mg cyp E3.5D w/250ish HCG (this part has varied) and sometimes .125-.25mg adex. I resumed TRT end of summer on (80mg + 300iu...
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    Something bizarre happened. I ended this cycle 9 weeks ago and resumed my TRT regimen of 70mg E3.5d + HCG 500iu and I saw my urologist and my total T is 1500+ and E2 is 52. How is this possible after 9 weeks on 140mg? I had my last shot of 200mg test + 125mg primo 10 weeks ago! I should be...
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    Doctor lab vs Trt clinic 218 vs 760

    I have never in my life seen a variation this large. Nelson is right. There is a problem with your bloodwork IMO. The test is wrong or the bloods were switched.
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    Can you dumb this down for me a little bit? Are you implying that my LDL actually isn't that bad bc my HDL and triglycerides we're so good on my natty bloods?
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    I found my natural bloodwork from earlier this year. I was taking off TRT to make a baby... I had been off of everything for 6 months here and eating normally while weighing 30 pounds less. My total cholesterol was similar at 223 My LDL was 36 points lower and still not great at 133 My HDL was...
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    I feel great consistently. As good as I have ever felt on TRT. Just bigger and stronger. I have had bad periods on TRT too mostly revolving around nandrolone. Straight test I feel good as well as long as I'm 160 or a bit lower area. I'm guessing here but I bet if I dropped down to 200 test +...
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    Results came in really quick. Some things were quite unexpected. My hematocrit is DOWN 3 points (46) from 2021 TRT bloodwork. So I have lower hematocrit on 400/500 test + 250 primo than I do on 160 test. I really think I know why. It's the E2. My E2 is lower using primo mid 20s than it is...
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    I have some bloodwork being drawn tomorrow which will include health markers other than hormones. Metabolic panel, CBC, PSA... if my hematocrit is too high or my cholesterol is really out of whack, I'm going to stop and go down to 140mg test cyp no primo. I'm roughly 10 weeks into this...
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    looking for success stories on individuals who conceived while on trt

    What did he say about dropping the nandrolone? ImO as long as you are on nandrolone, your chances of restoring spermatogenesis are much lower no matter how much HCG you take.
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    I will just go back to my TRT doses of 160mg per week. I feel fine there. I think I could do 16 weeks on this who knows maybe more. I don't need estrogen management really at those levels although I am thinking of dropping the dose to 140mg per week to see if I can keep my E2 in the mid 20s...
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    I had my E2 at 4 once when using too much primo on TRT 160mg. I was using 250mg primo and I felt fine. And I was there for a couple months at least.
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    My guess is that it is much lower than that. Probably 8-15. It's usually 26 or lower on just 160mg of test. I didn't get Free T and excessive testing bc I didn't do this testing thru my doctor. I used a workaround to testing bc I am in a state that doesn't allow self ordered pay for bloods...
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    26 E2 is low? It's quite optimal for me and what I have read. I am a big fan of Dr Rand and his range is in the 20s. The current experiment has proven to me that at least for me it isn't a ratio T:E2 but an absolute number and in the 20s is best for me.
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    As good has it has ever been in all ways. About 6 weeks.
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    I'd imagine similar results can be had with Anavar which is available via prescription in the US. I haven't personally attempted it, but I theorize it possible as it is a DHT derivative.
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    I use Bayer Rimobolan ampules. They are 100mg/ml but each amp has 1.25 ML and I use zero dead space 3ML needles. So I get it all.
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    Total test 3286 E2 sensitive 26 Prolactin 8 E3.5D 250 test cyp + 125 primo + 500 HCG 50-100 mg of p5p daily (I occasionally forget the evening pill) There is no AI in this equation.
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    Deca (nandrolone) for joint pain

    Don't forget the fact that most of us on TRT are old 35+
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    Has anyone had any really bad sides with PT-141?

    I tried my 3rd shot today after giving it a break for a week. First should was 125, then 250, and today was 375mcg. Flushed again today... so 3/3. On 250mcg I felt a bit of nausea, but after today's 375mcg I have some low grade nausea 5 hours after the shot. It's hard to gauge whether or not...
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    I am extremely sensitive to Testosterone Cypionate.... Low dose?

    These things go away. You just need to wait. Both times I started and restarted TRT I had a horrendous time sleeping and now even when I triple the dose I sleep fine. It's just the adjustment period.
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    Another thing is weird. When I began TRT 3 years ago or so I had acne on my back and some on face. It lasted so long I was ready to give up. It wasn't terrible but what 40 year old man wants bacne? I switched to Actavis and this never happened again. Even when I restarted TRT after and 8...
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    I don't know. I would never use a compound er again if I didn't have to. I used four different ones not my choice. My clinic just would.randomly send. Once vial crashed repeatedly and another my numbers were 200 points lower. Actavis from pharma has been perfect since.
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    I wouldn't get too overconfident on this. I understand UGL for + products on TRT and sure many of these UGL labs have vials sent to Jano but there is zero chance you will convince me that the ingredients and process of any UGL compares to Western Pharmaceutical standards. I may be wrong but I...
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    Deca (nandrolone) for joint pain

    I'd like to see that thanks.
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    Primo fo estrogen management!

    It's the primo. I once was using 120mg of Test cyp per week with 2 amps of Bayer Rimobolan (250mg of primo) and my total test was 512 and my free T was 31 E2 of 4. On test cyp at 160mg per week I am 1000 and 35 and E2 30-40. Primo is a wild drug. The "golden" ratio from my experiments is 2:1...
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    Deca (nandrolone) for joint pain

    I have arthritis in my neck to the point where I need chiropractic care weekly and torn TFCC cartilage in both wrists. I have used Deca as an adjunct to TRT up to 200mg per week and never noticed joint relief. I personally think it is a scam to sell TRT+. It is quite anabolic though I will...
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    looking for success stories on individuals who conceived while on trt

    You can get Pregnyl 10,000 with a goodrx coupon for roughly 110-120$. This is how I get my HCG.
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    looking for success stories on individuals who conceived while on trt

    Have you had a semen analysis done? They a few hundred $ and you don't need a prescription to do this. Also, who is prescribing your testosterone? I find it a bit shocking that same provider wouldn't prescribe HCG. Are you handling your own TRT w/o a doc? No judgements just curious about...
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    looking for success stories on individuals who conceived while on trt

    If you want it to happen quickly you should come off TRT. I did it this way and my wife was pregnant as soon as it was possible. 5 months from my last shot. It's your best sure shot. Get a semen analysis to see where you are. Dr Rand has been quoted as advising what the above poster has...
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    Melatonin Preventing Estrogen-Mediated Gene Transcription In Vitro

    Why would they would need this if they were taking tamoxifen or anastrazole? As for the OP quote on DHT derivatives, I use primobolan from time to time and it crushed my E2 bloodwork confirmed. As in nearly non-existent.
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