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Hey all - I've had really good results taking 750 mcg pf PT-141 (if my math is right, it's .15ml of 10mg/ml), and decided to try Melanotan 2 for the added tanning benefit. I'm just a little confused on the right way to dose it; at 750 mcg of PT-141, I get substantial nausea (less if taken on a...

OK - many thanks, all. Since I'm making positive progress I'm going to slightly increase my dose to 80mg x2/week - I think I'd like to see how far the x2 regimen takes me, but if I get into the above-800 range and it's still not where I want it to be, I may try daily injections. I have read...

Hey all - got my results today. A few things piqued my attention for sure. I'd like to report that in the last two weeks libido and sexual function have been better than at any point since starting TRT - I'd give function a solid 6/10 and libido maybe a 5. But I am hugely grateful that I am...

OK, added Prolactin into the mix just because why not. Checking out of LEF.org and now it's talking about shipping everything to me? Are these tests not done at a LabCorp site?

OK - trying to cover all the bases here - Male Basic Hormone is $56, CBC is $26, SHBG is $25, and DHT is $38 - I think that also covers everything on your list TLawyer except Prolactin. That's $145 but seems like a year or so into TRT would be nice to get a good look at everything. Surely you...

Thanks, Cataceous - sorry which basic male panel are you referring to?

Yeah, I somewhat panicked the first time I saw LH and FSH near zero, then had it explained that that was normal. Okay, so thinking I'll do that TRT monitoring panel at Quest and then drive to LabCorp for SHBG and DHT. So I definitely understand why SHBG is important - would you mind schooling...

That's a plan then. So how the crap do they calculate free T without also calculating SHBG?? I thought that was a necessary part - but I of course have plenty to learn.

Hey all - still staying the course and waiting a bit more to test. I am trying to plan ahead and get the right tests. There is a Quest quite close by and a LabCorp quite a ways away that I've had some truly crappy service at, but it's looking like LabCorp will have the cheapest tests. Several...

All great advice here, gents - thank you very much! I'm going to sleep on all of it. Since I'm in the club for life it's really nice knowing that there's a great amount of collected wisdom in this forum. I'll holler back in a few weeks with some labs! Thanks again, all.

Thanks, TL - so I know numbers don't mean nearly as much as results, but would I be incorrect to be aiming for 800-1000, or even 1100? Basically if I get 675 back, would I be wrong to increase my dose slightly? I appreciate everyone's patience very much!

Hey all - thanks for the continued input. I do have a great PCP and a urologist but after a single day of research when I was diagnosed with low T I knew more about it than them, so I'm in the driver's seat. I do have a script for 200/wk, which is more than I would ever need, but that's great...

Ok, I'll add DHT to my labs - I think I was already planning the rest. I have an excellent PCP who is very supportive of my TRT but doesn't know anything about it, and my urologist was happy for me to stay on 200mg/wk indefinitely as well as crashing my e2 with AIs. I'm just happy I got a script...

I don't think I've ever tested DHT - should I add that to my next labs? I have been hesitant to add any ED drugs yet simply because I'm hoping that the correct dose of TC will correct things, and I feel like I really wouldn't know if I was taking something else. If it comes to that I...

Man, that's tough - so then will libido be my major indicator of correct dosage, then wait a year to see if ED follows suit? Ouch - but I do have to figure it out somehow. I have heard that ED is the last thing to sort itself out, but that does present a challenge for me since I don't have...

Thanks for the reply - let me make sure I'm hearing correctly. So minimum six weeks until my body adjusts to the new dosage - so basically though I've been on this dosage for six weeks now, I actually haven't felt the effects? I have no problem shooting straight with you all - I'm a very fit...

You know I've noticed that on this forum a lot of people are on substantially smaller doses than other places online, and that has piqued my interest. I started on 200/wk and it shot me >1500, which in addition to reversing most of the benefits of TRT, made me uncomfortable as it was completely...

Ok this information is GOLD - thank you, Cataceous!! Great - I think I'll go with the test I usually get and add SHBG so I can get total T, and the SHBG should help me know if injecting twice a week is still a good plan. I'll report back with the results! Thank you all again! I am so grateful.

Hey all - reporting back in and with a question. I've been 3.5 weeks since moving up to 75mgx2 from 70. There has been substantial improvement! Still a ways to go. Though I'm dying to start 80mgx2, I'm following the recommendations of this thread and waiting 6 weeks after dosage change to do...

Hey gents - yeah, I did IM to the delts with 27g for 9 months; wasn't terrible but I did frequently have issues with some of the TC leaking out immediately after injection, leaving me to wonder how much leaked out and whether I should try to replace. I was skeptical of SQ TC - after all, what...

Well I'm injecting 35ml twice per week of 200mg/ml, so that is 70mg TC x2 per week. Sorry, being a new guy I'm never quite sure when people say things like 100mg/week whether that means what I think it does or twice that... But I guess mg and ml are different, so when anyone says 100mg total...

I have tried to always keep in mind that the number really doesn't mean all that much - what matters is where my body needs to be. If I feel good at 700, great - if it needs to be 1100, fine; I really do just want to find my good range. I really was unsatisfied with things before I got my labs...

I was giving it a month; six weeks seems reasonable, I'll do that from now on. So what do you think - I'm at 526 total T right now, had my labs, and am ready to bump up my dosage - should I try six weeks of 75mg x2 or jump up to 80? Thanks all!

Thanks for all the replies, gents. I changed over to SubQ after reading Doc Crisler's book "Testosterone Replacement Therapy" - he devotes a whole chapter to SubQ and it seems to be working pretty well for me. Not that I'm adverse to doing whatever I need to do. Happy to share my labs -...

Hey all - I started TRT about a year ago, 100mg TC x2/week. Tests kept coming back T>1500 and the doc didn't seem at all concerned, so I dropped myself to 70mg x2 a month ago and saw improved sexual function. Still lots of room for improvement but getting better. Blood test yesterday, the day...

Haha no, just pinching delt skin unrelated to injecting. Sure, definitely want to try new protocols for longer periods - I'm just thinking that if by some chance I have been getting into my delts and achieving legit IM, and Crisler says you only need 40% as much TC for subq, then my T level...

Okay WELL this is the first I've heard of taking TC subq - just read the entire chapter in Crisler's book and he is definitely a fan. He also says that he finds 40mg TC taken SubQ to be just as effective as 100mg taken IM!!! Alright, I've got to throw this out there...I'm trying to pinch the...

Also, I've been using 27g for delt, and now looks like 27g comes in 1/2" and 1 1/4" - can I get away with a needle as thin as 27g for the 1 1/4" length? Thank you again for your patience!

Well looks like it's time for some new needles, huh - I'm 250lb., 5'11 but very strong - anybody want to recommend 1" vs 1.5"? Also, if in fact I have been mistakenly injecting subq and not IM, what are the ramifications?? I tested >1500 for 100mg x2/week, and tested 797 in the trough on 70mg...

Thanks all - just injected 25mg more, slow injection, 10 second wait when empty, and pushing pretty far into the muscle. I'm using 27gx1/2 in my delt, but I do have large delts and little fat so it seems unlikely it's not getting IM. Especially since I tested >1500 on 200mg/week a few months...

Thanks, Cataceous - makes really good sense. Just watched the Z track method - I learned a lot, such as waiting to take the needle out rather than as soon as the syringe is empty. I typically inject quite slowly - is that a mistake? Should I be going in like throwing a dart like the video...