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I suppose I'll just assume one must pay to play, on way or the other. Thanks very much for the response.

@Nelson Vergel not sure if posted in the wrong place, but I saw your blurb at the bottom of your posts.

Been a while, but some news... The two miscarriages we had last year were very frustrating, specially for my wife. Consequently, we decided to just take a break from 'trying'. At some point around Jan 1st 2021, I also decided to stop taking clomid. It had been approx 14 months of consistent...

Would adding exogenous r-FSH shut down the HPTA? I have searched for this question in the forums and online. Have not found much, but I do not think that it would. My understanding is that hcg does. My LH is in a good spot and I was thinking of perhaps adding some FSH alone.

I had seen a post a while back wherein someone was explaining the exact mechanism by which libido in men is regulated (ie exactly what is happening in the body when you are feeling froggy). I thought I had put it on my 'watch' list, but I cannot seem to find it. Not saying it was totally...

I know I have ordered one before on discounted labs, but it has been a while and now they are working with quest. Cannot find on website, is discounted labs no longer offering semen analysis? Thanks, Dom

Unfortunately, pregnancy referenced above ended in miscarriage. As did another one over the last couple days. It is hard not to wonder whether or not it is the quality of my swimmers. We are doing some in-depth testing shortly, will update here if any excel-relevant facts come to light...

Thanks, man. We are excited. Good luck to you with that IVF - I understand it is quite a process. It amazes me what we're able to do these days. Furthest we ever got was an IUI (turned out my wife was the one with the fertility issues). It's nice to know some get back on TRT w/HCG and maintain...

Quick update: I have done at home semen analysis this whole time, with some details not given in result. They just tell you whether or not you are above a certain threshold of motile sperm and you can review a little video of your swimmers. I got a little lazy with the clomid at one point and...

Hey man, sorry to hear about the miscarriage. That can be a rough time for sure. As far as I recall, if you want to go the FSH/HMG route, FSH in concert with HCG is the way to go. The half-life of actual LH present in HMG is too short (below an hour) while the LH analog in HCG is over a day...

Still on the clomid @ 12.5mg EOD and still feeling decent. I have probably missed a day here and there (so probably a couple of two day gaps in there). The main difference I have noticed is that my workouts do not have the same intensity and gym progress seems to be taking longer. Pump not as...

Took an at home 'YO' sperm test kit on 12/10. The results came back '>6mil motile sperm per ml'. There did not seem to be a ton of sperm in there, though I apparently crossed some threshhold. I am now hoping to increase count over the coming weeks. I was only on day 64 at time of sperm analysis...

Yesterday was 4 weeks of ~12.5mg EOD for me (started right after 2.5 weeks of hcg). I have not felt noticeably bad. I know that is not the most glowing review, but it is great compared to my first experience with clomid, basically felt like a non-sexual entity. I am going to have test measured...

Update: My last injection of HCG was on 11/5. I had planned originally to do 2 weeks, but some of the effects seemed nice so I went until I finished the entire bottle. In the back of my mind I was dreading making the switch to clomid as well. I was doing 500 iu daily, with a couple of days...

Do you mind sharing your cost/source of FSH? I understand if you'd rather not...

HCG is not LH, thus little to no LH present to detect. It is a shame that the lab just puts <0.7 for your fsh result...mine was all the way down to 0.3 and they did not use the '<'. Regardless, that is a low reading. What is your current dose/frequency of FSH? 'Super trough' in this case means...

Very interesting. I am curious about your FSH levels - did you get those new labs yet? IS your current dose 11.5iu FSH EOD?

Have you tried any protocol with more than 2 injections per week? Some guys even do daily...this will keep things more stable and also leave you injecting less at one time...among other things. Also, as someone else mentioned, try a cream?

100 pounds per week (of use) is probably realistic. You have two options (stay on trt or get off temporarily), pick one and get on with it.

Look into HMG/FSH if you are so intent on staying on TRT. How old are you? It may not be the worst thing in the world to come off TRT for a little bit of time. Also, you say you've only been on TRT for one year...

Insight, interesting idea. I do not have any basis for arguing one way or the other. You should give it a try and let us know how it goes.

Are you saying you had a semen analysis after 1 year of concurrent trt + hcg use? And the results are that you are sterile?

user_joe, that is my understanding of running TRT with HCG from the beginning in tandem - I probably would be fertile. I also agree, this is a little more extreme, but I became so curious as to what I would feel like off of TRT. Also, to tie both of your observations together, the main point in...

I've now been on HCG for one week @ 500iu/daily and off TRT for 19 days. I'm still planning on doing another week at the same dosage then switching over to clomid. I have lost about 9 pounds since the 8th (last injection). I have also done some fasting since then, so loss is not 100% due to...

Thanks, Vince. I was planning on 12.5 eod once I hit the clomid phase.

Been on TRT for about 2.5 years. 34 year old male. I have 2 kids and want to keep the party going with a 3rd, possibly even 4th. Hopefully some information that comes out of this can help someone else. Of course, I am hoping it will help me too. I've spent about 4 weeks reading info here and I...

Let's keep this one alive... 34 year old male here. Been on TRT for approx 30 months. Started clomid @ 25mg eod in mid June, alongside TRT of 165mg/week (M,W,F). One week in I noticed my balls were hanging lower pretty consistently, they also seemed slightly more inflated. My goal was...

Check Curious - any update/progress?

I did start up Clomid @ 25mg EOD back in June (while remaining on TRT). Tested 9 weeks in and still sterile. My balls felt a bit different. Definitely looser and a bit bigger (maybe just wishful thinking?). Toward the end my energy and motivation dropped and a certain kind of muscle soreness...

Do you have any data on this? I would love to read more. Thanks.

Hey Vince, are you open to sharing any more details regarding your AI/dose/labs? It seems I am about to explore this and I am curious as to others' experience. Thanks.