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Thanks, I would have guessed it wouldn't have been an issue. Also, since I wasn't very specific and you said it might be useful, I wanted to provide a more precise description of the test procedure in case someone else can use this. The idea is to get a simulated urine sample in the range...

Actually I was wrong, there was a very faint line for the 80 miu/ml mix. So I tried 160miu/ml and got a half decent line. This means it's 8x weaker than the good stuff. Still I have 5 bottles of 5000 IU. Any reason not to use? Is HCG that has reduced potency still safe to inject, given...

I will answer as the test was quite conclusive. My control sample was a batch of powdered HCG that I mixed myself nearly 3 weeks ago. I went for a dilution of 20 miu/ml, which involved taking 0.05 cc and diluting twice. Since the test threshold is listed at 10miu/ml I wanted to make sure to...

Hi, I recently purchased some HCG in error. I thought I had ordered powdered form as usual, but realised my mistake when it arrived and I found it was premixed. What's confusing me is I thought HCG once mixed only retains full potency for about a month, and that is when stored at the correct...

One thing I forgot to add. If you look at the DHT graphs, and bearing in mind the seeming lack of impact on E2 in the short term, it seems that this approach can come with a pretty strong DHT response. Is this the reason scrotal creams are thought to maybe increase libido because there is more...

I'm sure like many I knew that oral forms of T are modified to prevent them being metabolised by the liver. I recently read that original Olympians ate sheeps' testicles, which got me wondering. Looking around, I found a study which seems to indicate, with some caveats, that oral Test E oil...

First, I now recognise that my mention of dodgy deals from China may not have been appropriate for this site, so rest assured, I will post about it somewhere else and possibly provide a link later. Turns out the lumps are a slow burn thing, and at different rates according to location and...

Well it turns out even at 90 deg, the lumps were still there, although smaller, deeper and less sore. So did my first delt shot, same needle, 29g 5/8ths. This is one of the few times I've injected with zero issues (so far). I like it. Can anyone comment on the risks of scar tissue doing...

Done a couple of pins at 90 degrees. At 45 degrees I always found some soreness and also the last time, the lump issue. At 90 degrees, no discomfort at all. Again, using a 15mm (5/8th) 29g needle.

Had a read, great stuff, thanks

Thank you, very informative

Well Iam learning all the time and what you say about average E2 seems plausable. On the other hand I read and hear a lot how higher frequency jabs lead to lower overall aromatisation, due to lower peaks in T. So if sub q smooths out peaks in T uptake, shouldn't this also contribute to less E2...

Thanks. No redness, so I guess standard stuff. I guess you mean shallow IM in the delts?

Both replies put my mind at ease, thank you. It was the abdomen for me, 2 inches from the belly button. The only other place I could try is love handles I think, arms too skinny. Makes sense to try 90 degrees I suppose. Yes once over to daily I'll be going for around 20mg, so presumably less...

I just read the whole thread this morning started by you about going to ED injections, so yeah. And by the way I have decided to move to ED today My understanding of sub q is that scar tissue is less of an issue because that happens when the fluid displaces muscle tissue. I also understand...

I am trying sub q and the first one went well, but the second attempt has left me sore with a bit of a lump. Nothing sever, just sensitive to the touch, and a firm area about the size of a squashed pea. Not hard, just firmer than the surrounding tissue. The injection was 3 days ago, and was...

Well, I am no expert, so only have my experience and accounts of others 3 mg would be way too much for a first dose. I am doing my 5th or 6th experiment spread over 3 months. Last 3 were 2mg, and I have seen reports that some people end up on a higher dose. Like any tolerance build up, I...

I am still figuring things out, but have taken before and not felt much for a good few hours. Gonna try 3mg today before lunch...the experiment continues.

Advice I've seen suggests 1ml. I haven't seen any tanning effect after a few doses. Now I have received my Alibaba consignment, I can report back. First observation, there is more powder in the vial than the Europe sourced stuff. Second, it dilutes to a slightly opaque looking liquid...

I just worked my way through one vial and never had much problem with any nausea. I felt it but it was mild, and got less with every dosing. Just my 2c. i worked up to 2 mg. Effects included random boners that became annoying and even a bit concerning, and being interested in every woman in...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the US, many people manage to get TRT on their insurance, and are able to choose the provider? That would be so great, but sadly it's not the same here. Limited choices here in the UK. State medicine, our NHS, is a no go - you'd need ridiculously low T, but...

I do my shots every 4 days, and the test was drawn the day after the shot, so no it wasn't even at trough, so I guess that makes it further questionable what he said. I get a different doc each consultation with my TRT provider. To be fair, he was otherwise very good. Luckily I can control...

Yes that's true. Does it cut into other drug markets if they solve some of the problems cheaply with T? I would say clearly yes. Thinking about it further, what proportion of TRT patients are on 4-10 week injection cycles, or worse, pellets? If that's a high number I can believe it's not...

Researchers say there are no benefits of testosterone treatments for men Old article I know, but I find it interesting that this information is out there. Of course I've read plenty of studies that discuss apparent libido, bone density, fat reduction benefits, etc, etc. And unless it's...

I can well believe that too much T3 pumps your cortisol. After seeing anxiety go down dropping coffee and adding ashwagandha, it was very clear when I went past optimum with the NTD, because the anxiety started appearing again. I wonder if having both T4 and T3 or NDT, because the body...

That is a new angle for me. I've never looked into what the causation might be, but I am aware that hypothyroidism is also strongly associated with insulin resistance. I settled on 2 grains (two tablets) per day, in the morning, of Thiroyd brand from Thailand. No extra T3. I tried twice...

I totally quit caffeine. I always knew it made me jittery and I didn't like the dependence. Medically speaking it's dependence not addiction as is often stated, but it's a real thing. I do believe many caffeine users find that in the morning it gets them going, but later in the day, it's less...

Hi guys, I really would love some help with this if anyone can spare the time to look. I appreciate it. I feel pretty close to finding my best baseline after 7 months. The doctor wants me to lower my T and go from sustanon to to enanthate. He said that sustanon causes a higher aromatisation...

I settled on 2 grains of NDT, and have been on 750mg Metformin 2x per day. The weight loss has continued but slowed after the first week, but still fairly dramatic. 19 days since starting and I'm down 6.6 Kg (about 15lb). The belly has started to go down now, but not by much. I got my full...

Quick update, after starting metformin and NDT and letting things settle down, I decided to try intermittent fasting again. Finding the NDT dose is interesting. At first going up to 2 grains progressively was great, but if took 2 grains today, I would definitely by hyper. You can feel it. I...

Thanks Vince, what you say makes sense. Some more detail for the benefit of any other UK readers perhaps... I have an appointment set up with my TRT provider's doctor. The TRT guys said my high TSH might be because of high E2, and he wanted to watch it. I am very happy with my TRT people...