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Not really giving up. I just dont think low T is the cause of my symptoms. While I don't expect everything to be perfect after 4 months, I would expect some changes to my symptoms. Right now I can feel all my symptoms are still there. I just prefer to put my mind, time and money on something...

Being more tired during the day is so much like me. Harder to fall asleep as well. I already have problem with constant peeing even before trt. Dr Saya mentioned that fatigue can be caused by thyroid issue. That trt can cause problem with thyroid. I checked for tsh, free t3 and free t4, and...

Thanks. Do you know how long before my natural production starts again, ie how long before I feel like before TRT? What do you feel when you said you "feel like death"? So you're saying you never feel good whatever the range you're in?

Hi, I need advice on how to stop TRT. I've read a couple posts but still not sure what to do. I've only been on it for 4 months. I'm 42. I've been working with dr Saya. Should I stop cold-turkey? Should I follow defy's protocol from here? "HCG 300-400iu daily X 14 days, FOLLOWED by Clomid 25mg...

Are side-effects of DHT like balding or acne are mostly genetics? If someone have too high DHT but are not genetically prone to those side-effects, will those side-effects happen? Or if someone is genetically prone to those side-effects, but his DHT is in range, will those side-effects still...

Thanks a lot guys.

Sorry forgot to mention where I inject. I injected into thigh. Have to use 23G because it's the only 1.25 inch I can find in my area. I dont know, the couple times I injected with 0.5 inch or 1 inch, I just dont feel good. 1.25 inch or above is when I start to feel better. I don't think I would...

Hi, I've been on TRT for about 6.5 weeks. 70 mg cypionate & 400 IU HcG, twice a week. 1. I often read in this forum that the next lab tests should be done 6 weeks after starting the therapy, as it takes 6 weeks to stabilize. What does it mean by "stabilize" here? 2. Dr Saya asked to me do the...

This is probably a dumb question. When you guys said to inject slowly, do you mean to insert the needle into my body slowly, or push the plunger when the needle is already inside slowly? Why does injecting slowly reduce pain?

I had. Thanks Vince. I'm not exactly sure where the area is yet. I guess I'm too lazy to learn a new area, having to experiment with needle length again, worry about hitting the wrong area, etc. So far thigh isn't too bad, just a bit of soreness after. Shoulder also came to mind but I have very...

I've only been on TRT for 6 weeks. 70 mg cypionate and 400 iu hcg twice per week. 250 mg Calcium Glucarate 2x/day. During this time, I tried subq, im 0.5 inch, im 1 inch, im 1.25 inch, im 1.5 inch. I did subq on my belly and im always on my thigh (vastus lateralis). I notice everytime I did...

Thanks a lot guys. I went to a dermatologist today and it turned out to be herpes zoster, caused by virus, not acne. It came out the same time I started TRT.

Thanks guys. I might need to talk to dr Saya about this. I'll have a more through read later. Can they go away by itself without treatment?

Hi, I just started TRT a week ago. This is what I'm doing, both every 3.5 days. I consulted with Dr Saya. 70 mg test cypionate 400 IU HCG Sorry I haven't got much time to read more about TRT and acne management. I haven't got acne in a long time. I did look at the side-effect management table...

I saw the video about combining the testosterone and hcg in one syringe, which is great. 1 syringe and 1 injection instead of 2. So first I draw the testosterone into the syringe. Should I pull and press some air into the hcg vial as well? Are we not worried about accidentally pushing some of...

I'm diagnosed with low T too, but haven't start TRT. Planning to start soon.

I have this too. Still looking for answer.

Just found this thread that pretty much said that if someone want to maintain a good level of T, HCG mono is forever. HCG monotherapy: Good first option for a Secondary case?

Felt very anxious on the 1st and 2nd day on hcg. 3rd day start to see some mood improvement. Is hcg monotherapy, or clomid alone, to raise T, is a lifelong thing like TRT?

Yeah I've been googling that. Doesn't seem as popular and effective as TRT, that's my impression. Has risk as well regarding desentizing the Leydig's cell if done too much, if i'm not mistaken.

Yeah I was only given HCG to raise T by my doc. Doesn't seems like a popular option so I dont know if I should continue with that.

Thanks. I'll consider working with Defy.

Ok thanks Nashtide. I'll see if I can add HCG.

Thanks a lot Healthman. Having kids is something I consider for the future, but right now I'm more concern of fixing my low T symptoms (brain fog, depression, anxiety, etc). The reason I'm thinking about not taking HCG is for simplicity. I'm new to all this and don't want to complicate stuff...

Thanks a lot guys. These are what I'm thinking, please correct me if I'm wrong. These are the list of tests I need to do before starting : - LH and FSH - Total and free testosterone - SHBG - Prostatic specific antigen (PSA) - Estradiol (sensitive) - Thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) - Lipids...

Thanks Vince. HCG alone doesn't seems like a popular option. I'm thinking of just switching to TRT.

I'm thinking of starting TRT, maybe doing weekly injection. I'm located at Jakarta, Indonesia, and I'm not sure I can find a good TRT doctor around here. My other thought is looking for doctor overseas (maybe in US or Australia) that do online consulting. But I imagine consult with US doctor...

Hi, I'm 42, located at Jakarta, Indonesia. I've been having brain fog, depression, anxiety, irritability, restlessness, very low tolerance to stress, insomnia, frequent urination, crashing after meal and bunch of other symptoms for years. I'm currently working with a functional medicine doc...

I forgot to mention that right now my sleep and stress level is crap. I'm restless and I'm easily stressed-out. I cant do hard exercise. Couple months ago I do weight train only once, and I crashed and become irritable for 2 days. Couple months before I did slow short jog (only like 3 minutes)...

I dont know. He only said it's a long process and not near as effective as TRT.

Thanks for the responses guys. So it doesn't seems as simple as I initially thought. I'll need to have a chat with my doc.