Wow! That’s a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for the well thought out advice. I wasnt aware that high T would produce side effects. You weren’t too far off on your guess of my free T - it’s 25.5 from Labcorp.
Here we go - I’m off on an estrogen trip again. I am getting labs tomorrow, but results have been taking 10-14 days. I don‘t think I can remain this miserable for that long. I am on .1 Enanthate daily, and .125 Anastrozole every other day. I was taking .125 every 3 days, and my e2 was at 31, so...
The results are in - these are labs after 25 days of .1 Enanthate IM daily in the AM. I know these aren’t stabilized, but it’s a good baseline on levels 1/2 way through.
WOW! I didn’t expect this type of turnout. Thank you all for the input.
I am 3 weeks in, and starting to feel a little more motivated. I also seem to be, in general, angry. I don’t feel any sides yet. This is my chief concern.
The conversation gravitated towards what is a high/low dose. I...
Good evening.
I have been on TRT off and on for a few years. My last try resulted in my giving up due to inability to control E2 sides. I with the guidance of Defy I performed a restart using Clomid and HCG about 1ish years ago. This initially brought my levels to the 500 range. We decided to...
UPDATE: I am now 3 weeks post my last dose of enclomiphene. I am EXTREMELY fatigued, foggy head, good libido, and good erections. Getting labs today. What’s everyone’s thoughts? Has my restart been unsuccessful, or is my natural T moving down from stimulated levels to normal?
I just finished up the last dose of Enclomiphene this morning. That brings my HPTA restart protocol to a close. What should I expect from here? Some of the comments suggest I may see my numbers tank. What type, if any symptoms would I be prone to experiencin? How long until I know if it worked...
Additional lab results came in today, see below. Anyone care to comment, make a prediction, or provide some insight? I am amazed at my total T #. I don't quite understand it. I am guessing my total T is high, and free T low due to highish SHBG?
> 5 weeks after last injection, 2 weeks on HCG...
So I should expect a drop in T again after stopping the Enclomiphene? I thought it would drop as the exogenous T was excreted, build back up while on Enclomiphene, and stay.
I injected my HCG subcutaneously, but if I had it to do over I would go intramuscular. I tried T injections sub, and it didn’t absorb very well. I was at around 1500 total T going intramuscular, and when switched over to sub it dropped to 8-900. It makes me wonder if I got the full effect of the...
Wait a few days after last T injection, and start the following:
300 iu HCG daily for 14 days
STOP HCG
Immediately start .25 enclomiphene daily for 6 weeks
STOP enclomiphene
take labs
This is straight from Defy.
Thanks a million for responding. If you were to hazard a guess - does it look promising? Why the high FSH? Does this show that if anything, I am secondary and not primary?
I am not sure the attachment was legible. See below for complete story.
11/23: 14 days after last injection of T, final injection of HCG, and beginning of Enclomiphene .25 daily
TSH = 3.019 (ref range .4 - 4.2
FSH =1.0 (ref range 1.0 - 12)
LH = <.2 (ref range 2 - 12)
12/16: 5 weeks since...
It has been a little more than 5 weeks since my last injection, and this is where I am at. The T free/total results aren't in yet. Does this look like a successful restart? Did they run the correct tests? Thank you in advance for your help.
Stop the 25mg eclomiphene daily, and take .125 every other day? They are in compounded capsules. Should I break them open, split the powder, and take it? Thank you for the help. Tomorrow makes 28 days since last injection. I have to be getting close to having shed all of the exogenous T. Out of...
Thank you for responding. I held water, cognitively impaired, mood, fatigue, etc. It has been a nightmare. I would go high, then I would bottom out, adjust dose, repeat. At a point I thought I was dialed in, and then I bottomed out after a month or so. Today marks day 25 since my last injection...
See attached labs. I had a physical scheduled for last week, so I figured I would get labs done as well. These were taken on 11/23, 14 days after my last injection, and after 10 days of HCG. I had not yet started enclomiphene. It looks like my FSH has restarted, but LH is still in neutral. What...
History:
I was unnecessarily placed on TRT for 2 years - 200mg. I came off cold turkey under no supervision, and don’t really remember too much about the side effects, timeline, etc. I stayed off for 3 years, and again went back on. I was logging about 15-20 hours of endurance training a week...
Thank you for the response. I am 100% positive on the date the were drawn from me. As for testing, I’m not sure. Do you think the e2 level would have changed because they split the sample for some reason, and tested the blood at different times?
See attached images. I’m not sure why, but Quest sent me 2 results from the same draw, and they both show different results. They aren’t even close - 1 is showing E2 @ 10, and the other @ 23. These are pretty important numbers. It’s the difference between AI, and no AI. The test was ordered...
You nailed it. That’s exactly what I feel like. I Am down to 15mg in the evening. As you pointed out, it seems like withdrawal is the culprit. I just didn’t know if 19 was considered low, or if my free/total T, and estrogen all seemed in line. Thank you for the insight.
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