Were you using prescribed or otc td dhea? My dhea tested low and I've tried several different oral capsules/tablets at strengths as low as 5mg/day and always end up with high e2 symptoms.
I did take a tiny piece ( .125mg ) Anastrozole yesterday to see if it helps. I'm not on trt now, just DHEA so maybe a dose that small won't have any negative sides.
I tested low in separate labs a year apart. I'm just trying to get into range. I do love the way it makes me feel the first couple days. That's all I get from it.
I've been off trt since May, and have been trying to bring my low DHEA levels up.
I have tried 3 different brand otc orals, and troches from a compounded pharmacy.
They all raise my e2 after a few days.
The only one that did anything positive is ultra micronized 25mg tablet that I cut into...
When on trt, I tried different protocols ( look for threads I started). I did use Anastrozole in small doses along with test cypionate and HCG, but never had the quality of wood on trt as I have since being off trt.
I have been off trt since May of this year and my numbers have dwindled.
Labs from 8/16/16
Total test. 372. (348-1197)
Free T. 7.2. (7.2-24)
Sensitive e2 15.3. (8-35)
My DHEA has also been low for quite some time now.
I have a follow up with defy to discuss starting back on trt, but in...
PAUL-E is that your homemade reverse hyper? If so, how much weight are you using?
I also purchased a Hammer Strength ISO row and a couple other pieces to work my lats without putting too much stress on my lower back. Hammer makes some great stuff!
Another piece that has helped strengthen my...
Reverse Hyper.
I injured my back years ago and tried everything short of surgery for almost 2 years. Physical therapy and chiropractors did nothing for me. I bought a Louie Simmons reverse hyper like the one in the video (except mine has the strap), and it did more for my back than any Dr. With...
My DHEA tested low on my last labs. I purchased the 25mg ultra micronized dhea tablets. I can't tolerate more than 1/4 tablet at a time. If I take it at night I sleep great, but always have e2 symptoms the next day... very soft wood, moody, puffy face. I'm currently off trt so dhea is the only...
My total T 2 years ago was in the 200+ range. Now it's 417 after, so I feel confident the weight loss helped.
I don't want you guys to think I'm completely better off without trt. I'm not. My free T is still very low normal. I don't have the drive to cycle that extra few miles or that extra...
I was told 1000 units hcg/week, split daily x7 or 200/day Mon-fri. I just did the 120/day and stuck with it. It did help keep my testicles full.
The .25mg Anastrozole was used when injecting weekly. .125mg was used 2x week with test cyp twice /week and subq ( e2 was highest and total and free T...
I didn't intend to start a new thread and apologize to the op on the other thread for hijacking.
To add to what I've already put, I lost over 50 lbs while on trt, built muscle ( but I am an easy gainer and used to body build in younger years so it was easier getting the muscle back), and looked...
I was on trt from mid 2014- May this year. I tried injecting once per week, every 3.5 days, eod, subq, IM. Never more than 100mg/week of test cyp. Each time an adjustment was made I waited 8 weeks before having labs. The last labs at 24mg eod and 120 units hcg subq ed revealed numbers that...
Subq just doesn't work for me. I tried it for 2 months.
HCG was 120 units ed and it was subq.
I've been off trt now for 2 months now but if I go back it'll be IM EOD again, and it will be even less test cyp.
My last labs on 24mg Test cypionate IM eod along with small daily dose HCG had my total T at 955. Free T and E2 looked great too. But they're just numbers. I never felt that great.
Vince, I just read an archived thread from 2014 where you stated the DHEA you were taking made you feel angry and aggressive after 4 days. That's exactly what I'm getting along with a red face and ed. Were you able to tolerate a different brand better?
Guys, I've been taking the DHEA before bedtime. It seems to help me sleep better but I can tell it's driving up my e2. The 25mg capsules I have are not micronized, so I ordered some that are ultra micronized from dhea.com
I need to bring my levels up but I just can't tolerate the e2 symptoms, so...
I'll order those through DEFY.
I'm on eod injections along with daily HCG trying to control e2. I get high e2 symptoms (libido, ed) even when I'm at 30 on the sensitive test.
That's with total test above 800 and fee in the upper range.
~One more concern, my good cholesterol is below range and...
Thanks for the replies. I think I'll continue with the DHEA and get my pregnenolone tested before supplementing.
I'm using Life Extension DHEA 25mg capsules now. Is the transdermal delivery method any better?
My follow up with DEFY is at the end of this month.
I only had the required labs for a follow up exam. No cortisol labs.
I must say that my stress levels have been through the roof for several months. Does that affect DHEA?
Where do you get the pregnenolone and what delivery method is best for it?
I've been on trt since 12/14. My current protocol is 24mg Test cyp eod and 120 units HCG ed .
I got my follow lab results but I don't know how to upload them from my iPhone without giving away my personal info.
My DHEA - sulfate came back low.
67.7. (71.6-375.4)
I'm using 25mg micronized...
25g is what I've always used for IM. I've tried 1/2" but respond better to deep IM. I have massive delts and quads, and have no problem at all using the 1" needles. Latest lab results..
TOTAL T. 955 (348-1197)
FREE T. 21.8. (7.2-24)
SENSITIVE E2. 27 (8-35)
This was from 40mg E3D with...
Thanks for the replies guys.
And Dr Saya I can't thank you enough for your comments. The moving target comparison is spot on.
Now... speaking of numbers I just got my lab results from 2/12 and was kinda shocked.
Total and free T numbers fell off a lot. And the ONLY change made since last labs...
I understand what you're saying and I agree. I know that having T at say 800 and E2 of 16 would probably make me feel like Crap. But I haven't made any changes since returning to IM last summer except for Anastrozole dosing/timing. It's the E2 sweet spot that I'm chasing. Not a number. And I...
Another question.
I understand the e2 fluctuations with days or weeks between injecting.
If your T reaches a steady state with ed injections that means your e2 should as well. What if that number or state causes high e2 symptoms? One would still have to use an ai, right?
I have no trouble with...
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