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Roller-coaster for sure. I feel like I'd do anything right now to get back to the Friday/Saturday feeling I had 2 weeks ago. But I know you're right, I should be more patient. Thanks, I needed to hear this.

Edit: blood draws were in March (pre-TRT), then on 2017-06-02 and 2017-06-21 2017-05-03 Wed 2:00 PM T-Cyp 150mg IM (L Glute) 2017-05-10 Wed 2:00 PM T-Cyp 150mg IM (R Glute) 2017-05-17 Wed 10:30 AM T-Cyp 100mg IM (L Glute) 2017-05-24 Wed 10:30 AM T-Cyp 100mg IM (R Glute) 2017-05-31 Wed...

Got blood work back. First number is pre-TRT (in March), second number is peak TRT (Wed morning shot, Fri afternoon test), and third number is trough TRT (Wed morning pre-shot): E2: <20, 42, 9 SHBG: 34, 19, 21 Total T: 314, 720, 375 Free T: 6.7, 14.7, 5.25 This was on 100mg/wk in one go (Wed...

Yep. I actually did that first, for about 9 months, before I got frustrated with my lack of results and went to get blood work done for the first time.

Last week I saw another urologist (found via this board) to get a second opinion. After talking with him, I've decided to forego the clomid option. Basically, since there's no real reason for my low T (no trauma or history of AAS use), a restart isn't an option. And if I'm choosing between...

Reply from Dr about T + Clomid: "If the level of testosterone is sig elevated, then yes, LH/FSH suppression will happen and it is unlikely that the clomiphene level would be high enough to counteract. But as the testosterone levels drop, then that would not be the case. The question is at...

Ah, this seems like an argument for an out-of-NY doctor when I search for a replacement, as they'd be able to prescribe more at a time and/or with refills. Thank you!

Thanks, CW. I'll definitely check out the HCG info. In the meantime, I'm emailing with my doctor to ask what he thinks about exogenous T shutting down the pituitary such that clomid won't work. Very curious to hear what he says and I'll reply back here when he does. I picked up my T-cyp...

I ended up getting 2 1ml vials for $10 (local pharmacy, with insurance). I'll need to see if I can get a 10ml vial next time, since what they gave me would only last 4 weeks.

I'm very strongly considering your recommendation to find a new doctor. As I'm sure you know, that will take some time. Thankfully, my current doctor said that I should always feel free to ask about stuff or present papers I find that might help us come up with a better plan for me. He does seem...

Ah, sorry, I neglected to answer (and I really appreciate your help!). No HCG is prescribed currently. When we talked about fertility, the doctor said (I'm paraphrasing): "95% of guys your age will still be able to conceive on TRT. There was one study that is often cited claiming it can go up...

While I decide what to do... is there any value at all in filling my clomid prescription if I end up not trying for a restart? I was supposed to pick it up today, but it's not covered by insurance, so I'd rather not if I won't be using it.

I see. Then I guess I have a decision to make. A) Stop the T now, wait two weeks, try a clomid restart (better chance of future kids, no T dependence) B) Commit to T injections for life (more stable and probably higher levels of T, better body composition probably) At 32, with one kid already...

Bump. Is the current plan not a good idea? I'm really hesitant to drop the injections and feel like crap again, but if it's the only way clomid might work I might just have to take the hit for a few months to give it a try.

I think my script was for .5ml per week and they were going to send a 10ml vial, so ~5 months' worth. My doctor's assistant said the local pharmacy would probably only do a 30 day supply (so a few 1ml vials I guess, we'll see in a week or two).

Thanks, guys. I found some insurance docs saying it's covered and now my doctor is going to send my prescription to my local pharmacy, where I should end up paying about $10.

In that case, I'm going to have my doctor double-check, because my employee insurance policy says that "Self Administered injectable drugs are covered" for in-network pharmacies.

Thanks, guys. If I've learned one thing in this whole process it's to question EVERYTHING, even (especially?) what the doctors say.

I knew this, but I always assumed I'd be the one making the choice of where to get my prescription filled versus the doctor? I mean I guess I could have said no and maybe he would have offered a standard pharmacy where I'd be paying more.

Today, my doctor wrote a prescription for 0.5ml (100mg) t-cyp per week (eg. one 10ml vial). The doctor said he was sending the Rx directly to a compounding pharmacy as it will be much cheaper for me in the end. He said I'll get my t-cyp in the mail. Is this normal? I expected to get a...

The idea is that if I can keep some of the lifestyle improvements from higher T via injections, while trying clomid to help my natural production, that's preferable to cutting off the injections and having my T plummet again while we wait for clomid to work or not. Is this not sound?

A correction to what I said before (I don't think I can edit the original post): The doctor gave me 150mg for the first two shots, but 100mg each week since then. So, 2@150mg, and then 5@100mg. Well, I just got back from my appointment and 7th shot. We spoke about the clomid restart and he said...

When we talked about clomid, he didn't mention the option of using it to restart anything (ie. it would have been a daily pill for life instead of weekly injections for life). Given those options, I figured I would try injections first to realize the benefits more quickly and then try switching...

Vince, that's kind of the plan. Once we've got my levels looking good and I'm feeling good, the doctor wants to try switching to clomid. He warned me though, that most guys seem to prefer the shots once they've felt good from those and try switching to clomid.

I don't know what test was used, and I'm not sure what a full thyroid evaluation would be. The endocrinologist and urologist both just did blood tests. I'll post my test results.

My doctor wanted to test either Friday or Monday, and I couldn't get off work to test on Monday. I figured that meant I'd get a reading higher than my trough, but as we're still stabilizing my levels I assumed I'd do the next test at my trough. The test had my estradiol at 42. Is that too...

Because I'm on TRT, I happen to know my SHBG right now is ~18.9, free test ~14.7, total test ~720 (blood work last week).

Just how much does testosterone matter for building muscle? I know that guys who use AAS get themselves up to ~1500-2000 total testosterone. If I go from 350 to 700, does that mean I'll build muscle twice as fast as I was before? Assuming eating enough and getting enough rest.

Background I'm 32, 5'10, and at around 30 my libido tanked. I didn't notice at first because with an ex-wife, a kid, a girlfriend, a job, etc... I'm a busy guy, so not having sex as often didn't really register too high on my list of shit to care about (though it was definitely taking a toll on...