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I was doing test cream on my scrotum per a doctor and my DHT went THROUGH THE ROOF 315 ng/dL Reference Range: Adult Male: 30 - 85 Dosage was 1/2 gram 20% cream EOD Free Testosterone 8.4 pg/mL Reference Range: 6.8-21.5 Total Testosterone 330ng/dL Reference Range: 348-1197 Looks like all the...

Sorry to bring up this old topic but I was doing a bit of research on Prions and came upon the thread. Prion transmission in blood and urine: what are the implications for recombinant and urinary-derived gonadotrophins? DEFINE_ME Total cases of iatrogenic CJD world-wide n Mode Cases ( )...

Injections fixed the problem. All the creams did was raise my DHT. Last labs were night and day different.

Well I am pretty sure Ovidec was giving me an allergic reaction, probably from an excipient they use in manufacturing. I emailed them to see if I could find out if they use any excipients and hopefully I can figure out what was causing the facial swelling. Not sure why they wouldn't just use...

Thanks, Vince. I think you have tried Ovidac from what I read in another post. Did it work for you or are you using another brand or not using HCG at all? I am going to stay off the HCG this week and then try adding it in again to see how things work out. If the HCG is working I have a feeling I...

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Just curious if anyone has really noticed any differences in potency between HCG brands? I have used both EmpoweR pharmacy and Ovidac and it really felt like EmpoweR had much greater potency over the two. Both of them came up positive on an HCG pregnancy test when a small amount was mixed with...

Not very good. The cream makes me heady, I sometimes nap in the afternoon now, I really don't feel like working out either. Mood has normalized but not enthusiastic to do things and libido is hit or miss too. It seems I feel better if I miss a dose right now.

I was hoping it would give me more of a baseline since I apply the cream to my arms and did not want it to interfere with the test.

Appreciate the link. I feel my concerns are that my DHT is at 315 and had gone up from 242 which is way out of the reference range of 30-85. Lately I have been feeling heady after I apply the cream, libido is kind of on one day and off another and the same thing with mood. As of yet the only...

Total was 475 ng/dl (both free and total were done almost 24hrs since testosterone cream was applied.)

Is there a range or ratio that the Estradiol Sensitive should be in? Free Testosterone 11 pg/ml Estradiol Sensitive 26.6 pg/ml DHT 315 ng/dl Test cream applied to arm 8 hrs before blood draw. I looked elsewhere but could not find the answer but it is probably somewhere obvious.

New blood test and it is not looking good so far, here are some notable numbers : DHT 315 ng/dl (up from 242) Estradiol Sensitive 26.6 pg/ml RBC 5.87 Hemoglobin 18.2 Hematocrit 53.7 Cholesterol also jumped: Cholesterol, Total 204 LDL, Cholesterol Calc 131 I am thinking of just going off the...

As soon as I moved over to upper body I could tell the DHT was coming down due to my hair becoming less greasy and coarse. It went back to feeling like pre-TRT within a few days. Physically I am feeling like the DHT levels are decreasing on their own. Since the testosterone levels are looking...

Here is an update on my testosterone levels applying 1/2-2/3 gram of 20% a day to upper body. 16 hours after applying cream: Serum Testosterone: 500 ng/dl Free Testosterone: 11 pg/ml My swelling does seem to be subsiding and from what I have read I think it has to do with the very high levels...

Surprisingly my ankles are not swollen, it is more of my face, neck, chest and abdomen. My current doctor checked for edema in the ankles and found none. When I first went on testosterone cream I felt awesome for 3 months then I went downhill with swelling and feeling horrible. I have noticed...

Okay so I just reached out to Defy Medical and hopefully it will not be cost prohibitive to get dialed in correctly. I have kept up with the current 2/3 g of 20% on the arm protocol but still feel my testosterone is low and I am still slightly swelling. Hopefully I can get the tests done sooner...

I am 2 weeks into trying approximately 2/3 gram of 20% cream on my upper body, do you think I should just give it up before the 6 weeks and try to get injections on the go instead?

So got the phlebotomy done and should be good for awhile. Going in today Hemoglobin was at 19 on the machine at the blood bank. I would have to look back on earlier labs but I am thinking it should be in the 15-16 range now. I did find this quote on another forum that corresponds directly to...

20% or 200mg/g Pre levels: RBC 5.6 Hematocrit: 49% Hemoglobin: 17 g/dl Back in 2013 RBC 5.8 Hematocrit: 50.6% Hemoglobin: 17 g/dl

Two weeks applying 1/2 to 1g of 200mg/g cream to my shoulders and the body swelling has mostly receded but still some remains. No noticeable improvement in how I am feeling and libido seems to be worse than when I started the cream. Sinuses are swollen and I wake up not being able to breath...

Does anyone know how long should I wait to get my testosterone retested after changing protocols for it to reach a steady state? I will be trying the androgel protocol of application to the shoulders that is listed at...

Appreciate the feedback. I am going to start applying 1/2 gram to my shoulders and then retest again. If that does not bring it up I will try again and see if I can get on injections.

Okay so I got my lab tests back. Testosterone is low and converting to DHT like crazy since I am applying 200mg of 20% Testosterone cream on scrotum based upon my original doctor and matching this protocol...

If it is not immediately clear what the problem is from the latest lab test results then that would probably be the best approach to take. I am not dealing with insurance just a lack of medical professionals in the local area.

Yes I would prefer to go the injectable route but my current doctor is not comfortable in having enough knowledge and would have to refer me out to a endocrinologist.

Another thing I have noticed is my face gets warm 30 minutes after applying the cream even in small doses.

Thanks. The new doctor is working with me on this a lot better than the last one I had. Initial labs were fine except for the low testosterone. It looks like I should do the full lab panel I have an order for. Free T4 and T3 DHEA Cortisol TSH Estradiol PSA SHBG Testosterone Free and Total...

Started on a daily regiment of testosterone cream the first week was good then it has been all down hill from there. It has been just over one month now and I am feeling worse everyday. After I take it I feel more swollen than before. Tomorrow I am going to get some blood drawn to see if I can...