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Strength is up, I see growth in my chest, legs, biceps, triceps, but not like those guys you see in the gym taking 1000 mg of god knows what .

200 mg/week nandrolone and 50 mg testosterone/week, AI as needed, and HCG when I need it. That's it.

Yes, switch to nandrolone seemed to help shed some fat that was hard to shrink on just test alone. I cant tolerate the sides of high test so was using a way lower concentration of total steroid per week than I am currently on now. So that may be part of it.

Not sure of bf %. Visually lower visceral and subQ fat, but it’s plateaued now. Smart scale which I don’t think is accurate, says I’m currently 12% bf.

Yep!!!

Got labs back. I am taking 200 mg/week nandrolone and 50 mg testosterone/week for a month prior to blood work, inject shallow IM every day. Here are relevant results.. I feel good. LDL went down, hematocrit is fine, estrogen is perfect for me since I’m sensitive to it, DHT is nice and low...

Happens to me all the time- like when I have a doctors appointment or donate blood. Usually focusing on my breathing for 2-3 minutes helps

started nadrolone in november - currently on about 200 mg/week with 45 mg/wk test. I take AI when necessary - about 0.1 mg a week. I also do HCG @ 0.3 ml/week. No problems with erections, feeling good emotionally and physically. Losing stubborn visceral fat and have lower subcutaneous fat...

Nandrolone should be picked up on the standard total testosterone assay, but what about free T? Will nandrolone interfere with the free T assay also? And if so, what lab tests are available that only detect testosterone and not nandrolone. Thanks

I just ordered some from Optum. 118 USD. The woman I talked with on the phone was friendly. They ship tomorrow for Sat delivery. Comes with insulin syringes etc. seems like a good deal.

Thanks, yeah I have been on TRT with another provider for 7-8 years now. I have some back issues and bicep tendonitis and also suffer from a lot of androgenic side effects from testosterone (hair loss, back acne) I figured I would give Nandrolone a try If they will let me. A major reason I'd...

sorry for bumping this thread up. Just wanted to ask folks who are with Defy who are on Nandrolone, who is your Defy Consultant? I just signed up and got blood tests done recently, now I am waiting to speak with Dr. Saya, but not for 2 weeks because of his busy schedule. Anyone else using Dr...

my nipples would be itchy if my E2 was 50+

Where are folks getting primo from, or is it from the grey market?

yeah about 145 mg/week in my case. I will talk with the doc about it. Will also see if human equivalent dose based on your link is still what folks use to translate dose to humans. Very informative post thank you

5 mg/kg 2x a week translates to me (200 pounds) to about 900 mg per week. way beyond what I plan on taking. And these are rats. studies in rodents a lot of the time do not translate to humans but yeah human equivelant dose would be a lot lower based on the link you sent (seems outdated)...

isnt it just active metabolites that suppress HPTA. I do not think long half-life nandrolone metabolites are still active, or they will compound over time to produce way too much active metabolite in the body, effectively turning your TRT into a super duper steroid cycle. And I would like to...

Don't really notice anything with the amout of HCG I take, but it seems to keep my nads from getting too small. I will occasionally increase the dose to 300 units every three days, but do that rarely. And the nandrolone cycle was only nandrolone. I think I was using a modest does, but I cant...

great suggestion to titrate test up with base of 200 mg nandrolone and low dose HCG. I'll give it a try. thanks!

My anastrozole is 0.5 mg twice a week on Wednesday and Sunday. And my test dose is 0.32 every third day. So 10 doses a month (3.2 ml per month) is on average 0.8 ml every 7 days. My hcg is 0.1 ml every 3 days which is 100 units every 3 days. I’m about to add nandrolone for a trial period to...

wanted to start this thread going again - I have low SHBG too (13- 18 nM/L) but TRT has been very effective for me. No libido loss, morning erections, but I do take low dose ED cialis. my protocol works for me and is as follows - 0.32 ml testosterone cypionate with about 0.1 ml HCG subQ every...

just signed up with Defy (been on TRT for about 5 years now)- looking forward to trying nandrolone as a base or split with testosterone. What are some of the protocols that work well with nandrolone - 50/50 split nandrolone/test, 75/25? 100% nandrolone? Would I still need to take anastrozole...

yeah good point. I try to stay as hydrated as possible, but it's hard with the diuretic.

Blood pressure is under control. I am on 3 low dose blood pressure meds - hydrochlorothiazide, an ace inhibitor, and a calcium channel blocker.

have not been able to donate blood at red cross due to high hematocrit levels. Finally got a therapeutic phlebotomy and now my levels are below 50%. Before the phlebotomy, level was about 56% and increasing upwards. About 2-3 months before getting a handle on high RBCs, I had some typical...

I am sure this has been discussed a lot but just wanted to get an update on what everyone is using to keep the balls in check since HCG is nearly impossible to get. Are there sources for HCG still available? what about gonadorelin? Selegiline? I doc I know claims this boosts test levels by...

I cycle between low dose HCG to prevent complete shrinkage to higher dose when I want to boys to grow back a little. Main side effect for me is increased estrogen and DHT if taking the amount prescribed by my doctor for an extended period of time.

anyone figure out a good substitute for HCG? How about Deprenyl?

you may be confusing high e2 for low e2 symptoms. I have never had a problem with low e2. high e2 and I was an emotional wreck and bloated as fk

you may be confusing high e2 for low e2 symptoms. I have never had a problem with low e2. high e2 and I was an emotional wreck and bloated as fk

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