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Hey thx for the reply.. it didn't really answer any of my questions..lol I dont think I want to just stop cold Turkey..and I think it is probably better to do some kind of pct since I ve been 9n for a little over 2 yrs.. I also made a mistake in my opening post.. I am actually taking 44 ml of T...

Hi everyone So after 2 yrs of ups and downs with my trt..I am just tired of it and have decided to stop. I am pretty familiar with the pct protocols but as I was reading thru I saw some posts and seems a few things have changed. My current trt is 22 ml of Test C twice a week and 200 iu of hcg...

I ve seen and read about this debate alot..but this is the first I ve seen that defy is percribing as a protocol..I also just read a statement by Dr Saya that he has now a few patients adding clomid to their trt protocol .. I was just curious about these new views on clomid as a part of trt.. I...

Hi Can I ask about your trt protocol with the clomid..and why Defy is now adding clomid to protocols when before everyone was always against it.. I myself have always wanted to try clomid with my test c injections.. simply because I have been on trt for almost 2 yrs and its kinda sucked.. and I...

I have no other conditions.. I am in great health.. And exactly what you explained is what I ve read about high shbg men..some do better on 1 injection of a higher does in order to get more free T ..something about men with low shbg use up T faster so they do better with frequent injections and...

I dont have any recent labs..maybe 6 months ago.. I live in Canada and it's hard to get labs and they dont test much.. no e2 sensitive and usually no free t.. I was on 80mg a week and I had bad sides.. eczema..water retention..anxiety..very dry scalp..etc.. At around 60mg or a bit less a week...

Hi everyone I am considering changing my current weekly test C injection protocol from 2 injections a week to 1.. I am on trt for almost 2 yrs and have never been able to find a sweet spot... I am 43 very fit and active .. my current protocol is.. 28mg of test C x 2 injection per week. 100iu...

Wow.. I just come on here today to make a post that i am still struggling with my trt after 1.5 yrs.. I am almost the excate same story.. I did a very small test only cycle 7 yrs ago and never recovered..low libido ..depression..etc.. I struggled very bad for 5 yrs.. mid total T ..low free...

Its hard to get labs in Canada and sometimes they wont test Free T if your total T is high enough..stupud i know... Vince you make a good case to drop the hcg.. I think i will drop it for a few weeks and see how i feel... So if i did decide to come if trt ...would i even want to use hcg as part...

Thx for the responses everyone... I live in Canada so no sensitive e2 test here..but i ve had many e2 test over the past and the e2 is high as compared to before trt..its like double.. In my original post i mentioned that i started on cream in June 2017 then swicted to injections in Dec 2017...

Whats up everyone.. Its been awhile since i last posted..so i started a new thread..because alot has changed... I will try my best to be clear and i really appreciate any insight.. 43 yrs 145 lbs very lean and fit..crossfit type training 4-5 days a week and i eat very clean.. Started trt june...

All ready feeling some slight difference in how i feel... Last night was my injection night and the low point of my biw T..so i was feeling a bit better last night i noticed..less brain fog and better mood..so i dropped my usual 40mg injection to 30mg and i skipped my 250iu hcg shot..just in...

Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.. At this point i dont think others testes are need... I think its pretty obvious my test is too high

Just noticed that my Ferritine was tested.. 52.1 range is 17.9 - 464 ug/L Is that low.. I dont know much about Ferritine

I dont.. Shbg was requested and in canada they will only test free t if total t is low..i know its stupid but thats how it is... But i dontbthink those numbers would matter.. My estrodial is not as high as i was expecting..esspically when considering how high my Test is... From previous labs i...

Yes i did labs before i injected..so far i always inject test and hcg on same day.. Monday morining and Thursday evening.. Its pretty obvious that my does is to high.. I am kind surprised that its so high on just 80mg a week.. It just goes to show how little seems to be know about trt..most...

Ok guys.. So finally got labs back.. Not alot was tested but got some interesting info and definitely why i am not feeling good.. So my protocol first is 40mg test c twice a week..so 80mg total 250iu hcg twice a week..500iu total I had blood taken morning of my injection but prior to taking...

Blood drawn this morning for labs...should have results by Tue.. Really dragging my ass today...so tired and lethargic...and getting a good 8hrs of sleep every night...hard to believe i am on trt.. Things i am thinking could be wrong.. Test to high? 80mg a week might be to much.. Test to low...

Thx for all the input guys..it really helps.. I notice many of these things..my whole package is more shriveled up and i also notice the less vascular in my arms..interesting you mentioned that.. But i do have noticeable testicular atrophy..aleast half the size pre trt... I am guessing that i...

I am jealous of your success... I wish i ould get dialed in like that... Its become very frustrating and confusion... The only conclusion i can come to about my atrophy is high E2 but then i listen to your case and it doesnt make sense... I heard alot ppl say that high e2 is not related to...

Hey Pringle So did you have atrophy issues and they were resolved once you got the e2 under control? I am wondering if the e2 is keeping the hcg from helping with the atrophy and once its in check the testes will fill out.. Can i ask your protocol.. Test..hcg and arimidex..dose and frequency?

Thx for the reply Vince.. Since the start of trt my dose has never gone about 350iu at twice per week..which was just recently in an attempt to help with atrophy... In the beginning and gor the most part it was 250iu twice a week and then for maybe 6 weeks i tried 100iu daily.. When i switched...

If it is the hcg that is the cause of my e2 problem..wouldnt Anastrozole be of no use? And second wouldnt mean that the hcg is not gonna help with the athropy? I ve read a few cases where guys who dont use hcg..add a small dose of clomid to combat athropy... I know many dont agree with this but...

Thx for thr reply.. Traveling to Maine is not really a viable option... I agree with everything you have said about the e2 and my Dr..the options for Doctors prescribing trt and hcg are very hard to come by in canada and that is the only reason i stick with my current Dr..cause atleast he...

I live in Nova Scotia

Hey guys.. Little update of some symptoms since upping my hcg from 100iu daily to 350iu 3x week...and i am only on second injection..third will be tomorrow.. I know its early but..i see negitive things already.. My face is puffy already and my hands and feet are a bit puffy and stiff.. I always...

Thx for all the responses guys and Dr Saya..its very appreciative... I think i will try the 350iu MWF and see if i see any effects...and then there is still the 500iu Bi weekly after that.. I definitely feel the hcg..it drives up my libido and i feel a boost in strength when injecting...

After reading Dr Saya data of the hcg dose experiment.. It seems like 500 iu twice a week would be the best protocol..or even 250iu EOD... Its weird cause Dr C preferes 100iu daily... I tried 100iu daily for maybe 6 weeks and never saw any change... I guess i might try some higher doses 300-500...

Thx for the responses everyone... I am scheduled to have new lads on March 5th...my last labs was when i was on cream and they wernt great... My estrogen was high atleast in my opinion..my Dr wasnt concerned..but i live in Canada and we dont have the proper e2 test..so its hard to argue with the...

100% sure..its straight from the pharmacy