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So you’d rather have slightly higher BP with less thick blood basically? I wonder what the long term trade off is viewing from the longevity lens only.

The differences are 7mg vs. just over 8mg, but I wasn’t careful on the 7mg strictly subq or shallow IM. The 8mg daily was pretty steady shallow IM 2 days, subq 1 day, repeat, except I did add quad shots the past 12 weeks. Right now, I’m doing 7mg alternating between shallow IM and subq every...

I’m curious about this too.

After years of playing around with different test cyp doses and such, daily seems to be the best for me. But, I’m at a crossroads. Would you rather have…using Quest’s best labs… HCT 54% Free Testosterone 150 pg/mL Ultrasensitive E2 30 pg/mL Blood Pressure 125/80 Or… HCT 50% Free Testosterone...

What is “severely elevated HCT”?

Where are you seeing these guys above 55? I recently tested again at 54.3, but didn’t get the results for 2 weeks after so I could be even higher now. So frustrating, and this is from 8mg test cyp shallow IM daily.

lol You’re right, sorry man… (Brace for impact…)

You weigh 218 at less than 10% BF???

What was your free T at 25mg daily? That’s getting into low dose cycle isn’t it?

I’m one of those that more isn’t better. 10mg IM daily had me just over the range, but 7mg subq daily had me getting close to the bottom of the range. 8mg daily IM seems to be best for me, although water retention is a bit high for my liking still. I should also say the 10mg daily IM made my...

How high of an elevation are we talking? I’ve been taking 1mg per week injection for a year and my levels are still only 750.

Update?

I’m one of those in the first example. SC is notably worse than shallow IM for my daily protocol. My free T was actually it in half by using SC and I could tell by every sleepless night something was wrong. My E2 was normal though, so I couldn’t tell what was wrong exactly until I had the...

I switched to daily injection which allow me to increase my free test levels while hemoglobin and hematocrit stayed lower. 8mg per day test cyp at night.

Since switching to daily shots and assigning even higher free test levels, hematocrit and hemoglobin haven’t been an issue.

Are you still on 8mg daily? How’s that going?

Update here: ever since getting my e2 up to mid20’s to 30’s, my blood pressure is always about 120/80. No white coat syndrome anymore. Whereas e2 at 17 was a problem.

Realizing I’m 4 years late to this reply The link to your story is broken, but I’m having hard time with this. Did you ever cycle higher levels (blast with anything) with building that physique? I definitely agree that maintaining doesn’t require the same as building, but getting to that...

Yeah, I had labs drawn to verify DHEA-S levels went up and they did, somewhere mid range. I’d have to go through 100 blood tests to find it so you’ll just have to trust me lol. I’ve used multiple brands including Douglas, sublingual worked the strongest to get my levels up but oral did as well...

All of them, but I think most are due to lower e2 levels, not DHEA. I rarely feel like I’m going to pass out though, but dry skin, lethargy (or overstimulation), weakness (relative to amount of muscle mass), irritability and noise sensitivity. None improved with good dhea levels, but when e2...

Yeah, I’ve tried all that…with supps, just dhea, each supp solo, etc and just don’t find any benefit to any of it, except vit D and C that is.

Hello, I gave dhea a fair shot several times, between sublingual, oral and transdermal, none of it provided me any benefit I could see, so my levels are back to under 100. I also stopped most supplements after realizing they were all making any and all issues worse. I only take vitamin D and a...

Are you going to start taking vitamin D? I'll leave the rest for the real experts lol

Thanks. I'll always use sterile injection technique, but had a mild concern about contamination from so many punctures. Otherwise, 8mg daily gets me significantly higher free T than 50mg twice per week, or 25mg EOD. 8mg daily: 167 50mg twice per week: 105 15mg EOD: 117 Range for all 35-155...

Sorry about the frustration, but I was trying to get the 1mL vials and twice now they've given me 10mL vials. I'm also doing 8mg daily, but would prefer only puncturing a vial about 10 times rather than 100 with the 10mL vial. That doesn't concern you?

This is interesting to say the least as I've had issues with overstimulation on test cyp only protocols, but also bloating and sleep disturbances on free test levels that no one should have an issue with. I'm looking at trying test e though first because of so much positive anecdotal feedback on...

My most recent labs on 8mg daily test cyp. Total Testosterone 675 ng/dL 250-1100 Free Testosterone 162 pg/mL 35-155 Ultrasensitive Estradiol 32 pg/mL <29 Everything looks like exactly where we'd want it, except maybe the free T is a little high. But, compared to when my free T levels were at...

That's too much for me honestly. Would just using it for 60 days with sterile procedures be fine though?

I've thought and posted about this before. I was eventually given a 10mL of 200mg/mL and I'm only using 8mg daily, so it's going to last months.

Good point about manipulating numbers for a single test.

Gotcha. What were you doing before?