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Welcome to the club ! I have the same issue. I am lowering my testosterone dose to see if it does work. My labs are close to yours. Maybe may high estradiol is not helping I am not sure starting tomorrow going back to EOD with but with 16mg Testosterone instead of 20mg.

When I stop hcg after using it for 3 weeks I get nice libido for a a week or even more. I am not sure is it because of changing protocol or is it something that hcg does that kills may libido.

Nelson I am using fsh EOD. I am not aware of a longer Easter. Where can we find that or under which name ? I guess HCG you have to do EOD for fertility. Is There a way around it ?

Becarful from frequent blood test, I have done one donation but was doing monthly blood test I took my ferritin down and had problems sleeping “I wake up after few hours and can’t sleep after” beside blood pressure problems. As I know hct months before stabilizing depend on one person to person.

I agree with you. I noticed if I stopped hcg for a week every 3 weeks on it. I get increase in libido a good one actually. I was doing that for sometime and I am sure 100% from it. This is why if this didn’t work I will go back on my previous protocol.

Having said that I feeeeel very flat with this daily shots I am giving it a chance and see after sometime if it work out or not I think it’s been a month on this protocol. If this didn’t work out I will go back to eod or e2d with a lowe dose than 20mg.

My experience with the cream was not good, didn’t feel anything I was flat, zero nothing. Tried it everywhere in different doses but again nothing. The only conclusion was maybe the high T I am getting didn’t work well for me.

So does taking vitamin k reduces hemoglobin ?

But why does vitamin k reduces hemoglobin ?

I need to do that, what kind of vitamin k ur using ? I have the one Vince recommended before.

20mg worked good for me on EOD specially when I stop HCG. Which I do every 3 weeks for 10 days. I wonder if it’s the HCG that’s kill it or it’s because of protocol change. The jury is still out for that. Currently I am doing 10mg daily. To test it out.

I just started 10 mg daily, I guess daily injections can give more control if you want to change a lot. Have you noticed increase in libido when you go down ? Recently when I shifted to daily I used half of my dose and went completely flat. Nothing moving in my body :p

I feel it’s more to do with getting used to a level than changing it daily. I notice when I stop hcg every three weeks I get this bost which can last for a week or two.

I don’t believe you get used to it I have been on that protocol for almost a year. Didn’t get less until recently. I may even need to lower it a bit more.