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I know this is an old thread but I am having symptoms described by others here and Defy recommended Pregnenalone a while ago - but I never started because I thought that HCG would help backfill some of those pathways. Are you still taking it and does it still work or does it lose its effect over...

Thanks. I’ll take a look and if duplicative I will delete. In the other threads I have seen one had to sort through all of the responses to get to answers for people on it long-term/full-time - which is why I started this thread to catalog those specific results. Anyway - will check again.

Hey guys – I know there’s a lot of posts on the use of Nandralone with TRT already but I wanted to set something up for those of us who are on, or considering, the longer-term use of this product along with our TRT protocol. There has been a recent development it seems, where clinics, and...

Have you had DHT checked? This is a major part of the libido equation. I know guys who are on TRT and need to add a bit of Androgel or a cream in the mix as these are DHT-based and they are good to go. I have a feeling that would help. You will need a very experienced doctor to even prescribe...

Normal therapeutic nandrolone doses will not increase progesterone - or only by a point or two if anything. Personally I would cut back on progesterone a bit and add it back slowly after being on nandrolone to be on the safe side (I am overly cautious) but I would expect zero interaction.

Ok - so your doctors were giving you horrible advice. There is no reason to stop TRT cold turkey because Free T is too high. That doctor is a moron. Also, starting someone on T at 400mg per week with descending doses is equally moronic. It looks as something as simple as you need to lower your...

Yeah I would do as the other posters have suggested even if you can get just a few 2 ML vials to hold you over. If not, it might be time to try a UGL but you’d have to check around for a good source - and it would be about two weeks before you got any. Another option is just running HCG at a...

To find the human equivalent dose, divide the rat dose by 6.2 and then multiply by 80 for a 176 lb man (or adjust based on your own KG body weight)

Personally I don’t put a lot of credence in animal studies when it comes to behavior. It’s very subjective. It reminds me of that study for MK 677/ Ibutamoren where it was found to increase fear and anxiety and causes negative brain behavior – the study was done on rats that were essentially...

I have been cycling nandrolone in 2 to 3 month intervals, with about an equal time off, for the last two years or so. Recently I was approved for long-term use and just rounded my third month of continual use. I plan to stay on for about six months at a time then take a month off and then go...

I never tried extended release. I was considering it, but when I was titrating my regular cytomel dose I was taking too much at once at it really messed with me (anxiety, palpitations, etc.) until I got it under control. I take 5 MCGs 4x per day starting at 5 am when I wake up, every 2-3 hours...

Regular generic cytomel. Not sustained release.

I go on and off but always back on because I start feeling like crap after 3 weeks w/o it - not to mention my balls start pulling up inside me which is painful. I take 200 IUs every 3 days along with Testosterone and nandrolone. I also take a very small amount of an AI - .10 mg every time I...

I don’t think you’re E2 or testosterone is causing you to wake up like that. It’s probably cortisol and perhaps the resulting inflammation from working out, or just outright stress. I get this way every now and then. Due to some job-related stress I was literally up almost the entire night...

Choline and inositol were an old school body building fix for fatty liver after a cycle. 2-3 grams of each for a month. Look it up - it works.

I have been on HCG since I started TRT about 6 years ago. When I come off, I definitely don’t feel as optimized, or sleep as well. After 3 weeks my balls start getting smaller and will frequently go up inside of me, which doesn’t feel good at all.

I have tried daily, Eod, 3x/wk, 2x/week. I finally found my sweet spot with every 3 days. Every day injections definitely were good for HCT (I still needed to give blood every 6 months) but I feel so much better on this protocol, which is 46-50 mg Test E3D, with 225 IU HCG, .125 Arimidex. I am...

My understanding is that there is no risk of saturating the receptors. That being said, I typically stay off for about two weeks or so when I run out before starting a new vial - every 10 weeks or so.

FWIW I was started on Armor thyroid which had both T3 and t4. I felt like garbage and my Ft3 barely moved but my reverse t3 was off the charts, around 30. This proved that I was not converting. I switched to liothyronine (t3 only) and felt better immediately.

It comes out to about .125 mg 3 x week. Very low dose. I can’t stand it when my estrogen gets high. Left unattended, I will hit a 75-80 E2 just on TRT and if I throw in nandrolone it goes to mid 90s. I can’t see any logic behind letting it run wild like this and feel better when I am around 50...

For what it’s worth, when I eliminated my AI, my estrogen level rose into the 80s and 90s. There are a lot of threads and experts saying that this is perfectly fine but it just didn’t resonate with me. I take a low-dose AI and try to keep mine under 50. I feel better and look better. I am not in...

Overall healing and body recomp. It did not bump my igf1 as much as ibutamoren but it does something. I feel great and my skin never looked better (not that I really cared but I’ll take it). I think it has a lot of benefits. I also take melatonin, TRT, etc. I just did a thread on using...

I took melatonin with the CJC/IPAm with no issues at all. I am not familiar with the other supplements but I believe the peptides work different channels.

I will post back. I think I only have a few days left in the protocol. Based on where I was for the past few months and how quickly the BPC has given me relief, I would still highly recommend this product. I would also be curious how well it does with Covid shot reactions or something like the flu.

Update. I have been continuing with my bpc protocol as described in my original post above. After any type of pressing movement, the shoulder does get sore for a day or so. However the constant nagging, chronic pain is gone and has never returned since starting bpc. I conclude that the substance...

I don’t have recent pre cycle inflammation / particle sizes (last test like this was 10 years ago). At that time I was pretty much optimal so not much has changed in all these years. I am posting my recent labs for these tests below - anyone can order them from Quest (and I assume Lab Corp)...

The results are in brothers. Bloodwork at week 5 of 25 mg/day 5 days per week. I never watched my diet and also had about 2 drinks on each weekend. I am showing the May labs (no gear at all except TRT) as the first number for the main values of interest.The second number is on Anavar. Total...

Yes - they were great. Just got today. Will post in a bit but barely any hit at all to lipids and liver but HCT and PSA rose quite a bit in a short time. Will post details later

By the way, Nelson, where did you get that cool ExcelMale t-shirt in the video. I want to buy one.

My urologist said to never take HCG and testosterone on the same day because it spikes estrogen too much. I do it the same day just to cut down on the number of times I pin each week. Also, many docs warn to never mix HCG and test in the same syringe but I have used it this way for the past few...

did you have surgery? What was the time frame to heal. I have had similar challenges with this shoulder for decades , typically from subluxations. This time it seems heavy KB pressing was the culprit. I have never had a nagging shoulder injury this long which hurt all the time especially in the...