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    Can a person be on psychiatric medications and be on TRT?

    As far as the problem loosing weight, did you ever have a full thyroid panel done? Also are you on a proper protocol now or are you doing this threw a local dr or T mill that is clueless? Going from 175 to 100mg protocol is a big drop to adjust to. Or you taking Hcg also with your test or...
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    Can a person be on psychiatric medications and be on TRT?

    You popped a zoloft? Your either on it or your not. I've never heard of "popping" one if you need it, cause as you started it has to build up in your system. This remind me of the other wonderful feature off this stuff. Every person I know who has tried to get off this stuff with the drs okay...
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    Can a person be on psychiatric medications and be on TRT?

    I was not interested in any of that stuff till I was on zoloft for around 6 months and it stayed like that for years till it wore off. My personality changed on that stuff, others said the same thing about my change. I've never been diagnose with bipolar or bipolar 2 or manic behavior. All I'm...
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    Can a person be on psychiatric medications and be on TRT?

    I've been on zoloft (ssri) for around 20 years. At the time I started TRT I was taking 100mg pill a day of zoloft for anxiety. Since starting trt I had no problems whats so ever being on both. If anything I started feeling naturally calm since being on TRT. So I slowly lowered my dose to 50mg...
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    Deciding on what protocol to change to

    So I decided to go to daily injections with the ok from Defy. Started July 23rd. Test C 20mg Daily HCG 150 IU's Daily Stopped AI I've have no complaints so far but that may be because I started supplementing with DHEA and Pregnenolone. Started with the preg in the morning at 5mg and worked...
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    Whoever Said Changing your Protocol Sucks was Right On, When does it End?

    I'd search all other options before going to a anti depressant. Have you tried HCG yet? When I added that when I started TRT it made HUGE improvements in all departments. If you do start HCG it'll reset your 6 week wait to do test.
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    UPDATE // New Member w/TRT protocol from Defy. Please compare, critique and advise!

    It would have been better to have a sensitive E test done, since its more accurate. If I had to guess I would say your E did go up though. If you are having symptoms then you should look into taking the AI. You do sound more emotional which I learned was the only signs I showed too when my E...
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    My start on NDT

    I don't, I may have written it wrong or was misunderstood where you saw it but I remember reading that here on many threads not to do that. I take my morning pill first thing in the morning on a empty stomach when I wake and have breakfast a hour or two later. The afternoon one I take around...
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    My start on NDT

    Had my follow up appointment with Defy. He didn't feel I was pooling. I explained everything I read here though. He feels my FT3 was high because I took the NDT pill before getting my labs done. He also thinks my iron is ok because my Ferritin came up a little. So I should stay on my current...
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    New member of the trt club..advice/guidance appreciated

    Exactly! I spent $55 a week to drive to the first place every week to have my numbers tanked worse. Second place charged twice the amount of Defy for test,hcg and AI to be sent to my house from APS and I paid $400 just to join. Let alone there whole cookie cutter protocol was all wrong for me...
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    New member of the trt club..advice/guidance appreciated

    I think in your case the best thing you could do is call Defy. All these Low T clinics or the same. Clueless and rip offs. Call Defy they will explain the whole process from start to finish. You'll save money too. In the mean time start reading all the stickies in all the forums and reading...
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    New to TRT, lingering concerns

    Fixing a sleep apnea problem will not double your T levels. If you think you have it, by all means get checked out. But getting it fixed will not effect your TRT treatment in a way were you shouldn't be on it. There's members here that have sleep apnea that are on TRT and others that are on TRT...
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    UPDATE // New Member w/TRT protocol from Defy. Please compare, critique and advise!

    I don't think so. Were replacing natural with synthetic. I believe your taking Test C which most do which is a slower release compared to say Test P. Even Test P I would say doesn't completely mimic natural T production. If you want more of a science answer, I'm sure another member can chime in...
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    UPDATE // New Member w/TRT protocol from Defy. Please compare, critique and advise!

    I don't think I would call 150mg a week spaced out in three shots a "huge" dose. Their has been many people that started with protocols of 200mg a week in one shot from doctors that didn't know any better. You can include me. Most including me, lowered their dose on the recommendation of members...
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    UPDATE // New Member w/TRT protocol from Defy. Please compare, critique and advise!

    Here's my theory based on you saying vaping cannabis has helped you so much with your sleep and you saying now only a few days into starting T you can't sleep. Being only two shots in since you started, little is actually happening yet, so that tells me its in your head. You have a over active...
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    DHEA and fatigue

    I take the 5mg preg in the morning. I'm continuing to feel better on it still. I will say the first day I tried it I did feel what some may call a slight headache, but I didn't feel as though it was a headache. After the first day though its been smooth sailing since. Thanks, You also said you...
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    My start on NDT

    ok, Thanks. Just want to make sure I can explain this theory to the PA on Wednesday correctly.
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    DHEA and fatigue

    Out of curiosity did you try the brand MRM for Preg or DHEA? I bought Douglas Labs Preg and DHEA yesterday, since they came in small 5mg doses and had good reviews for the brand. Decided to start with the Preg for a few days to see how I feel before starting the DHEA so I can tell if one causes...
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    My start on NDT

    So the link I put up is actually whats going on with me. I just don't have the FT4 to raise my RT3? So RT3 can only go up if it has FT4 available to do it? Ok, so if I added more T4 with how I am "currently" low iron, my RT3 would probably jumped up more? Since I would then have the available...
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    Supplement BOTH Pregnenalone and DHEA?

    Thanks for the info. I think it would be better for me to start small and work my way up. I know my DHEA is in the middle of in range. Preg never got tested since I heard its not reliable. Not sure if it helps you but on Amazon a company named Douglas Laboratories has many good reviews and...
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    My start on NDT

    To add to my last post (can't edit it now) does RT3 also go up if you have to much FT3 also? Was under the assumption it only goes up with high FT4 but then I read the following from here. http://www.tiredthyroid.com/blog/2015/08/11/high-reverse-t3-rt3-can-be-a-sign-of-too-much-t3/ Edit to...
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    UPDATE // New Member w/TRT protocol from Defy. Please compare, critique and advise!

    Mine never moved, but everyone is different. It has been said many times here when you start a few things at the same time you wont be able to tell whats helping or hurting, so I can see waiting till you've been on Test / HCG for at least six weeks and see how you feel then. By that time you'll...
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    Supplement BOTH Pregnenalone and DHEA?

    Thanks, I figured being micronized is the key. It sounds like proven results have been found with using MRM though, So I'd rather play it safe. Is their any problem with starting on a low dose of both like 5mg and working my way up to either 25mg or 50mg total each for both?
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    Supplement BOTH Pregnenalone and DHEA?

    I know this is a old thread. Is MRM still the recommended brand for taking DHEA and Preg?
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    Whoever Said Changing your Protocol Sucks was Right On, When does it End?

    Yes, I mean everything. Lowered my low TT FT even more. My E I don't know what it was before starting because at the time I started, it was with my PCP, who knew close to nothing. He only tested my FT and TT. But from the crash my E came back <5.00 LOW. I don't think my E was that low before...
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    UPDATE // New Member w/TRT protocol from Defy. Please compare, critique and advise!

    Hi, Just wanted to add not to stress about the anxiety. I used to suffer bad panic attacks and between that and no energy, they were the reasons I started TRT. After finding this place and changing my protocol to yours (their very similar) my anxiety went away the first time in my life. We also...
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    Whoever Said Changing your Protocol Sucks was Right On, When does it End?

    I disagree with you guys. I started on a small dose of 90mg a week of test C only. It completely crashed my already low numbers I started with more (have lab work to prove it at 6 weeks). I'd say if they started me on HCG at the start, I probably wouldn't have crashed since I would have been at...
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    Deciding on what protocol to change to

    I don't think your a normal case though, the TRT Gods have blessed you lol. Your FT is almost double the hi end range with a high shbg yet you take only 112mg a week. Some members said me being on 150mg a week was going to have me come back too high and it turned out fine. Was top of the FT...
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    Deciding on what protocol to change to

    My current protocol is-> Monday morning: 50mg test C Tuesday morning: 350iu's HCG Wednesday afternoon: 50mg test C and .25mg AI Thursday afternoon: 350iu's HCG Friday evening: 50mg test C Saturday evening: 350iu's HCG Sunday: Nothing If you have been following my thyroid / iron problems in my...
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    My start on NDT

    Defy would have had me on 1/2 grain for the 6 weeks if I didn't email my PA at Defy after my first week asking if I could raise it cause I felt tired (worse then not being on it). I did feel better after the raise but didn't want to push it more fearing I could have pooling and not know it till...
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    My start on NDT

    Thank you Chris for taking the time to write all this. Much appreciated. I did raise the selenium to 2x's a day (400mcg a day now). I will also raise the vitamin C to 2,000mg as you suggested. The iron supplements I will continue to take at current dose to see effects on next blood work. I...
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