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Yes Empower. I would definitely not recommend taking your thyroid meds a couple hours before getting labs. It's going to show high elevation and you will most likely never be able to get to your right dose because defy will stop you short of the right dose thinking your now hyper. If Dr. Saya...

I'm not taking NDT this time. I'm taking synthetic Liothyronine / Levothyroxine. My last dose was my afternoon one at 4pm. Had blood drawn the next day at 10am.

UPDATE: Been a while since I started thyroid treatment again. I'm glad to say this time around everything is going a lot better. I started by taking one 9/38mcg capsule in the AM for one week. Second week I added one 4.5/19mcg capsule in the afternoon for one week. Following week raised the...

Here you go.

They do. I was just prescribed it for my hashi. Haven't started taking it yet though.

My appointment with Dr. Saya was great! He felt my cortisol was fine. Which was a big relief for me since it's one less thing I need to take something for or problem that needs fixing. He also mentioned the time table thing Vince Carter mentioned above and how you have to look at the results...

My appointment with Dr. Saya was great! Should have spent the extra money and dealt with the longer wait to have a appointment with him at the time. I will say this time the wait time for him was MUCH shorter. He was available the following week when I called to schedule this time. Felt 100%...

Personally I'm hoping I don't need to be put on hydrocortisone. Because I feel it will add more variables, tweaking to find the right dose and another thing I have to take. But if he feels I need it I'll definitely do it. But like you said I really don't feel I show the symptoms of needing it...

I've heard the same too. Tommorow is my appointment with Dr Saya. I'm excited to get my thyroid problem taken care of. I feel its the missing link.

I don't have what you would call cortisol symptoms I'd guess. I do have low thyroid symptoms though. The reason I did the test was I started thyroid treatment using NDT towards the end of last year. I uploaded my follow up thyroid labs on here and members said I was pooling. Members commented...

I remember reading the same thing about highest time in morning being around then. Read on the STTM forum you take the lowering pills a hour or two before the time you need to lower. I'm assuming it may differ per each individual. Anyone else want to chime in on my cortisol test results...

From what I read you treat iron not ferritin. Ferritin can be high or "normal" from inflammation. If the inflammation was gone the number would be lower.

I'm excited to say I got my labs done including my cortisol saliva test and made a appointment with Dr. Saya at Defy in two weeks! I'm really hoping everyone here is correct and he can take care of my thyroid problems. I noticed evening though I have been supplementing with different types of...

I got my results back. Looking for input and suggestions. The lady on the STTM forum said I need to lower my evening / night levels and my morning is low and needs to come up. I read her suggested link which sounds likes I should do the lowering part first which may raise my low level morning...

No it didn't. But I wasn't on the right dose or couldn't have been because I was pooling. I'm assuming taking more NDT wouldn't have helped the situation of having low iron at the time and unknown cortisol levels.

Yes I requested to join a few days ago and just got allowed access. So I do plan on posting a thread there. Hopefully they can recommend a good place if I decide to go that route. I'm thinking about calling Defy when I have a chance and explaining my previous situation. I'll just come out and...

I agree totally. The PA I use is very friendly also and is totally cool with me being educated with TRT and us working as a team together. I've never had a problem at all involving TRT with him. The endo I just saw locally I could tell was not thrilled I was educated going into this appointment...

NY and wouldn't want to travel that far. I found out the lady that wrote the STTM book has a FB forum and may have some telo-doctors like Defy but who specialize in strictly the thyroid she can recommend. If you read the first page of this thread it discuss my start with thyroid treatment with...

Well I waited over a month to find out I'm going to be jerked around again by another doctor most likely. Had the appointment today with a local Endo and wasn't happy. 1) She didn't seem thrilled with Defy's TRT protocol 2) Isn't a fan of NDT 3) Says the 4 panel cortisol saliva test is only...

From my reading here it sounds on most protocols you draw labs right before your next shot, to get your lowest reading. In my case I inject daily (have low SHBG) with Test C in the morning around 7am. If I usually get labs done around 9-10am in the morning will it show elevated levels if I took...

I'm on nothing now for my thyroid. I have started taking selenium (400 mcg a day) again with vitamin C and E though to help with my antibodies in the mean time. I also stopped taking any iron pills around the time I stopped taking my NDT. BTW: I finally found a local endo Dr. to hopefully...

Thanks. I'm hoping working on those will help. I just hope I can find a good dr that doesn't mess me up more. I can't take many more setbacks. Hasn't been easy pushing forward these last months.

Sorry I didn't respond sooner. Thanks for the info. I had a break down shortly after my last post here and haven't really been on here much till I started browsing a couple days ago. I found a new psychiatrist (since I had to go back on zoloft) and I'm now talking to a therapist. They both...

My first follow up labs on NDT are on the first page of this thread post #6. My RT3 has gone up, didn't think that was considered a good spot? I thought my iron was in better shape especially my ferritin levels? Also my TSH has gone higher then it has ever been which isn't a good sign. I have...

Had to get labs pulled for my regular Defy check-up. So I ran all my thyroid labs to see what my numbers look like being off the NDT now. Notice my TSH has gone up more and so has one of my antibody test ones and RT3. I haven't restarted taking a lower dose (200mcg) of selenium yet since the...

Just to clarify, I didn't mean you would be going backwards as far as progress goes. Only meant that when you were planning to do follow-up labs (being the minimum of 6 weeks or longer) you would reset back to week one. I can only see this bothering someone like my old self or others that...

That's the brand Ive been using also. Definitely feel the difference on it. I take 25mg DHEA in the morning and 50mg of preg in the morning. Originally I took it in the evening but noticed the relaxing effect it has for me so I started taking it in the morning to keep me calmer threw the day...

Wow, sounds like some serious stuff you've been on. Glad to hear you've been able to drop that stuff. It'll take time but as times goes on and your body adjust you will continue to feel better. Couple things I learned... You need patience, don't rush things. You won't be cured in a few weeks or...

Thanks guys!

I'd suggest starting a new thread so more really knowledgeable members here can see it and comment. Not brushing you off, just want you to get the most help and info possible. In the mean time you can read these two threads which were the reason I myself decided on doing one or the other...

Thank you. "You know it's a chemical imbalance when there is nothing to worry about but you still have the anxiety for no specific reason." Exactly my point! My short story with the HCG was I started TRT without any hcg at the first bad place I went to. Within a few weeks my balls were hurting...