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If it wasn't for the collective thoughts from this community, I probably would have never gotten my testosterone / thyroid levels checked. I think the community offers an amazing resource that everyone should use in conjunction with a doctor. There are many terrible doctors out there, so knowing...

Yea but I think getting insight from the hundreds of posters here, many of which are extremely knowledgeable, is a valuable tool that everyone should use.

Thanks, the reason I came to the forum was to get a better sense of why my protocol isn't working. Also, the nurse has an expected wait time of several weeks, and I was hoping to get insight on my labs (from you and the rest of the community) before speaking with an actual practitioner.

Are you a patient with Defy? You can't "pick up the phone" and talk to Dr. Saya. You need to schedule a consultation with him, which often times takes several weeks if not months. Even talking to a registered nurse has an estimated wait time of several weeks at the moment. The reason I came to...

That's exactly why I was hesitant to decreasing down to 100mg a week.

Thank you so much for replying, Dr I'll decrease the testosterone to 56mg twice a week. Would you like me to change my thyroid protocol before our next consult as well?

NDT was taken at around 6:30 AM and the tests were done at around 5:30PM

Thanks! I'll try to get on the phone with someone from Defy tomorrow!

I don't feel bad on my current protocol - but the lab results have me a little worried (especially the e2 and the thyroid). I also want to stop any problems before they might arise. Do you think I should speak with Dr. Saya before making any changes to my protocol? It's frustrating waiting...

Thanks I'll definitely bring it up with Dr. Saya during my next consultation. I did, however, want to get as many opinions as possible. Its just really frustrating waiting months for my next consultation, and I want to handle any problems that might arise before they actually arise. Thanks for...

Okay, do you think dropping to 120 is better than 100? I'm worried my testosterone levels might drop too low by going down to 100.

I got these labs done 3-5 hours before I usually take my biweekly shots.

Thanks - I was always under the assumption that lab results > symptoms. Is that not the case? Also, what are your thoughts on possibly introducing an AI instead of decreasing the test? I think I already know the answer, but I'd love to get your thoughts!

Hey everyone, I've been a patient with Dr. Saya, at Defy Medical, for more than a year now, and we are still unable to figure out the appropriate protocol for me. I am currently taking 140mg testosterone along with 700 units of HCG a week split into two doses. I am also taking 180mg of Natural...

After changing my dosage, the symptoms have definitely gone down so I am not sure if it will be helpful to get a panel done. However, if you think it will be useful, I can definitely get the lab work done and sent to your office before starting the T3. Please let me know if you would like me to...

That's really interesting. I was always told that treating hypothyroidism would increase testosterone levels, so I just assumed that an increase in testosterone levels would be anything but bad for my thyroid. I have forwarded this thread to your staff so that they can update my chart. Just to...

Thanks for taking the time to reply, Dr. Saya. Would you like me to stop all thyroid medications (T4 + NDT) and only take the T3? I've read that NDT does not provide the same amount of T3 conversion consistently, so I'm worried that it might be skewing results. Also, I was reading that...

Thats really interesting. Why would TRT decrease FT4 though? I started TRT a couple of weeks before the first labs were done. So I was on TRT for 5 and a half months before the second set of labs.

yup, it was a bad move on my end

Gotcha, thanks. I haven't been diagnosed with any condition other than hypothyroid. I'll bring it up with Dr. Saya during our next consult though

Hey Will - thanks for the reply. What do you mean by leaving some essential info out? I wasn't aware that the Tumor Marker numbers were off. What additional information do you think is necessary?

Thanks for taking the time to reply my man. That makes a lot of sense. I guess I'll continue with 1 grain of NDT + 50mcg of levo in the morning. The symptoms I had were just unbearable, and I was worried about still being on a high dose.

If you are unable to find qualified doctors in your area, I HIGHLY recommend Defy Medical. I've been a patient for around 6 months now, and I am really impressed. Let me know if you have any questions about them and I'll be happy to answer =)

Hey everyone. I apologize in advance for the long post. But I would greatly appreciate any insight anyone can share with me. I am a patient with Defy Medical, and I am currently undergoing trt as well as thyroid treatment with Dr. Saya. Dr. Saya has done an amazing job getting my testosterone...

Thanks, Dr. I spoke with Melissa, and she was extremely helpful. I am looking forward to our next consult.

Thanks for the reply, Vettester! I have not ran TPO antibodies lab. These were the labs that were requested by Defy Medical based off of my record. Do you recommend I get those labs done as well?

Hey everyone :) As promised, here are my lab results. Any input would be greatly appreciated! http://imgur.com/a/uFGDT

Thanks for the reply brother - I appreciate it. I've been on TRT for 7 weeks now, although only 4 weeks with Defy Medical. My only concern is gyno that might be developing. That is why I was asking if Raloxifene should be taken instead of the suggested Tamoxifen.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, my man. 1. I've been on TRT for 7 weeks now (only 4 weeks of Dr. Saya's protocol of HCG + 60mg of test cyp every 3.5 days) 2. Yes, I apologize - I meant 350 IU of HCG. 3. The nipple sensitivity isn't bad, it is only noticeable when I am outside in the cold...

Hey everyone, I wanted to give you guys a quick update on how my TRT regiment is going. As you might know, I had a consult with Defy Medical (Dr. Saya), and I have to say that they are absolutely amazing. If anyone is on the fence about using Defy Medical - I would highly recommend you take...

I have had low t symptoms (specifically brain fog/fatigue/lethargy) for as long as I can remember but I never paid much attention to them. Even as a child my parents frequently used to comment on my energy levels, telling me that kids my age should not be feeling tired. Also, I don't know if...