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It sounds great when you read through that. Keep in mind though, that was Bayer's advice in 1979 - do they even make it any more? And why isn't it a commonly prescribed treatment now? I also felt great on it to start off with (ie, while my test levels were still ok). But within months, my LH was...

Proviron without trt would be a terrible idea. I did it, as i'd read it isn't supressive etc. I was taking 25mg most work days, as well as the low dose clomid i'd been on for seversl years. After a few months of having taken proviron, my joints started to hurt and i literally couldn't crouch...

Balance My Hormones have a terrible reputation in the UK. Apart from over charging, there's a long standing joke about them on UK forums that if a 12 year old girl walked into their premises to ask for directions, she'd walk out with a prescription for testosterone, hcg and arimidex.....

I think you'll find those were his labs back in Dec 2020 while on trt. The third column are his recent labs off trt

I bet the OP can't wait to start treatment now after wading through the last four pages!! (sarcasm). I'm not on trt, maybe should be - but from what i've read over the last ten years following this and other forums dedicated to trt, using the lowest effective dose always works out best for...

Boron might be worth looking into for that

What i'd be interested to know is, are the people having libido / erection problems on trt having them BECAUSE of going on trt, or did they have these problems before starting, and the trt just hasn't helped?

Oh ok. Well i'm suprised at that as i thought test undecanoate was the longest acting (ie as in nebido). Maybe taken orally its effects are different then.

Is it known why? I thought any exogenous testosterone would cause shutdown, especially long ester ones like jatenzo uses

I wouldn't touch d-aspartic acid unless you want even lower testosterone. I believed all the hype when it first came out, and after having had a low test result myself thought i'd try it. Well, two weeks later the doc tested me again. My total testosterone had dropped from 12 nmol/l down to 9...

Also, aren't pregnenolone and dhea mostly made in the adrenals? I'm sure i read the other day that only around 10% is made in the gonads

Vince, a couple of years ago i used Lugol's iodine, transdermally (on the scrotum, long story), but after a short while my tsh went up from around 2.0 up to 3.4. The online doc where i get my bloods said that indicatesi have subclinical hypothyroidism (free t3 was near top of range, free t4 near...

Watching with interest.......

Hi Cataceous - hmm, maybe then, in the interests of science, i should up the dose a bit. I might try that for a week or so, see how it makes me feel. I've had no side effects, but then i was only using the same protocol i did with regular clomid. I'm sure even just going to 12.5mg ed would give...

Ok, so i'm a bit disappointed but not really suprised. I had a blood test last Wednesday, maybe too soon i'm not sure. But after a week of eod 12.5mg dosing of en-clofert, and a dose the night before testing, my results came back as the following: LH: 5.4 iu/l (1.7 - 8.6) FSH: 10.2 iu/l (1.5...

Interesting video, thanks for sharing.

Well i figured that since i was previously taking regular clomid 12.5mg eod, and i'm now using (hopefully) pure enclomiphene without the zuclomiphene in it - then by keeping to the same dosing schedule i should actually be getting results similar to taking 25mg regular clomid eod (but hopefully...

Six packs of En-Clofert arrived in the post yesterday, first 12.5mg taken in the evening. I've not decided if i'm going to dose eod or daily yet, but i'll get labs done in a couple of weeks and see what it's doing.

Yes, no problem. This is the shop and item - https://expresspct.com/product/en-clofert-50-enclomiphene-citrate/ I'd read about it before but hadn't ordered because there was some debate as to whether or not it was actually just regular clomid. I found this from the shop above, on reddit...

There's Indian pharma grade 'En-Clofert'. I haven't tried it yet but i'm going to order some tomorrow.

I never get that, in fact if anything i get the opposite and have to take loperamide quite often (i think i may have ibs though, self diagnosed).

Ain't that weird - i've been on regular clomid, 12.5mg three times a week, and my libido / sexual function is great. It's all the other potential positives i don't get. So i'm fatigued, achy joints, low general mood etc, etc, but sexually just fine.

I find this hard to believe as it's well documented that proviron is supressive (at the testicles, not lh / fsh), and there are many online accounts of people being shut down from taking sarms (even ostarine). I'd love it if it were true as i used to take proviron (along with low dose clomid)...

Ok thanks, that's very interesting. I bought one off Amazon months ago, just haven't got around to moulding it yet. The wife says i still snore occasionally though, so i think it's time i started using it.

That's interesting about the mouthpiece - is it one of those you mould yourself with boiling water, like a gumshield? I bought one a few months back, but haven't got around to moulding / using it yet. If that's what you're using, has it completely stopped your snoring?

Well you're probably fairly suppressed hpta wise now you're on trt. If you really wanted to try an alternative like you said, i think it would make more sense to at least try using a serm med like clomid, not just drop your injections and take pregnenolone. All this depends on why you had to go...

Thanks for the detailed reply. From what i've read, you wouldn't be the first person who didn't find trt was the magic bullet they were hoping for. Mind you i think in a lot of cases it's more down to the protocol used than trt itself that's the problem. Maybe in your case it was, like you...

When your test was 295, were you overweight? Are you in better shape now? Just trying to work out what's different that would cause your natural levels to be so much higher now?

Hmm, i'll be sticking with the vitamin D then i think, very interesting videos thanks

I'm mostly concerned about the vitamin d issue - there seems to be two completely opposing opinions on this, one that it helps protect, the other that it makes things worse. I always take d3 anyhow, but i bought my elderly parents some 5000iu pills last week, and now i'm wondering if i did the...

Ok, so i don't think this was the article i originally read, but it mentions how mesterolone may lower total test. I'll keep looking: JPMA - Journal Of Pakistan Medical Association "Gonadotropins were not supressed by mesterolone treatment. The fall of total testosterone may be due to...