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When I was not on HCG at all for years and years my preg, prog, DHEA, cortisol were all normal.....pretty much middle of the range. I am not one of those that does believe HCG is needed to "backfill"

I didn't not get SHBG , still awaiting the testosterone results. Blood draw was the same time this past Friday, so should be here soon I would think.

So I have been taking the puretrig brand from reliablerx, which for sure has to be real and at its full strength. I have been dosing 250IU EOD for 8 weeks. My first couple injections early on gave me cold hands and feet...very odd. I then did get a nice mood boost and libido from weeks 2-5, then...

The site Nelson posted and I think he has a discount code for it somewhere, anyways they carry eutrig https://medsbase.com/eutrig-hp-5000iu-injection/

Thanks all , i will just not worry about it then. I just saw the drop in FT4 over years and it had me wondering

From the report, Eutrig is double dosed, so did you take that into account when mixing.

From reading, it seems most recommend the free T4 to be on the higher end scale. I can get levothyroxine , just don’t know a good starting dose.

So over the years my Free T4 has went down a little, Any benefits to taking T4 , any certain dose? My RT3 was normal also Reverse T3, Serum A 14.5 ng/dL 9.2 - 24.1

here you can see .75mg gel (which is 3x the strength as the cream) hits pg levels of 30pg

Yes, I do well with higher E2 40-60pg. with the tablets unfortunately you don't get much estradiol, it is converted by the liver to estriol in a large amounts. Creams or injections are your best bet. Also HCG

I suffer from low e2 as well , the .25mg cream is fine. I tried cream of the same strength and is took my estradiol from less than 15pg to 24pg, so likely twice a day would have been better.

To the OP, testosterone can spike your norepinephrine which will cause high bp. Which should normal out after a while.

Be careful with your diastolic in the 60's especially low 60s. the heart does not get enough oxygenated blood. I know you take daily tadalafil, but if you add viagra also it may be dipping into the 50s

my opinion there is no optimal level on any hormone, just ranges to go by. Some men need middle of the road, some need the lower end, and some need 2x the range. In terms of prog, my level was .3 on LabCorp. I tried some prog cream and it turned me into a angry a$$hole.

This is what I am referring to, it should be there worded as there is a chance of it happening. I searched reddit\forums and plenty of other posted labs of normal values with no HCG\supplement use.

Actually not concerned at all, was just curious in the theory you see everywhere with HCG backfilling hormones, I agree with your levels,, if you feel fine thats a bonus. Yes mods won't post labs , I can almost guarantee their levels are at or higher than yours.....but can always tell others...

looking back at mychart app, I started TRT in 2012...13 years is pretty long

The pregnenolone lab range is odd, just <150, so they make it seem like there is no low level. Do you supplement with it?

So I been on TRT for a long while and only tried HCG a couple times early on. It honestly made me feel like garbage. I thought I would give it another try but before I started it I had my DHEA, Pregnenolone, and progesterone tested. These are the hormones that most seem to say we need to...

You get a lot of calcium and magnesium through food if you eat healthy, I don't think one large dump of any nutrient is good. This multi gets you some of the basics without going overboard.

I agree here as well, sometimes certain nutrients make me feel awful as well. That would be Vit D 2000iu+, magnesium usually 200mg+ (Elemental), And super high doses of B12

This is a great multi, has about a 100% of daily values on most things vs 1000% https://www.amazon.com/NATURELO-One-Daily-Multivitamin-Men/dp/B01MA5K82Q?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1

I would check Vit D, B12. Also possibly magnesium and zinc blood levels.

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Agree here, don't try messing dopamine. My buddy started using those zyn nicotine pouches for a dopamine boost well after a year he decided to quit because he had to use more and more for a benefit. After quitting he had minor depression, fatigue, no libido....took about 5-6 months to level back...

This was my original comment "This could help, but and also be another problem if your body can't clear\process Cholesterol properly" He presented a weak study, if you look at the method. My best friend does carnivore, his LDL stay in the 220-240 range. Is that good long term? So the same goes...

Far from what one would consider highly processed in todays foods Whole Grain Oats, Corn Starch, Sugar, Salt, Tripotassium Phosphate. Vitamin E (mixed tocopherols) Added to Preserve Freshness. Vitamins and Minerals: Calcium Carbonate, Iron and Zinc (mineral nutrients), Vitamin C (sodium...

Did you see the method of this study???? Did you read the elevated LDL???

I guess it really depends on the DHT levels, my DHT is 3x the reference range on 14mg daily. I don't feel like superman with DHT that high. Im trying natural stuff to lower it, not Pharma. I assume if you are low on E2, this could be why some feel better lower DHT, as the high DHT is further...

I will also add, Sildenifil gives me nothing but side effects, but Vardenafil I recently got a script for works very well at only a 5mg dose and no sides. Evidently a little more targeted than others. I got a script for 30 20mg tablets (just split them) Cost is $60 at Mark Cuban's Cost plus drugs.

This could help, but and also be another problem if your body can't clear\process Cholesterol properly.