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Im a fan of sustanon thats what works best for me and it is the cheaepest one here, also no pharma prop in my country

What do you mean dry out? Propionate usually converts more into estrogen in comparison to cypionate

Im the same way and cannot even dare to remember that shit. So I rely on a repetative task in google calendar on my phone. When I try every third day it would be even more impossible to remember.

At some point I may try to do shallow IM again eapecially when I drop more weight. But Im not sure whether its worthy. The 27g 3/4 inch needle I use is only slightly larger but I know it does the job well for me. And Im happy with my protocol, afraid to change it. With the shallow IM daily how...

For what is worthy shallow IM worked for me similar as sub q and producing similar levels, way lower than deep IM. But at that time I was above 25 percent body fat. I think shallow IM becomes either IM or sub q depending on your body fat percentage. I could try it again now when Im leaner, but...

...35 nMol/L of testosterone is effectively supraphysiological when SHBG is normal or low. I cannot believe I read this from a guy that is supposed to be knowledgeable in TRT. I end my participation in the current discussion, really I see no point in wasting more time on this.

I dont deny a lot of guys do good on sub q. But many dont. In fact since Ive joined the forum Ive seen around 10 other guys supporting my thesis. They have also reported seeing enough people who dont get the expected serum concentrations on sub q and do better on IM. Only you and one more guy...

I dont comment it because I dont know anyone using it. And what does it mean success - it is well marketed by the doctors? Do we know how happy are its users in comparison to other guys taking more mg? I have seen A LOT people on TRT getting optimized, both in my country and in the forums...

Very cheap manipulation bro. So you say average male body bla bla produces x amount of testosterone. But when you inject cypionate for example 200mg per week the actual mg of testosterone is around 180(dont remember the exact number). My mentality is to use enough in order to get maximum...

This argument is totally irrelevant when it comes to TRT. I dont know why I see it only in this forum, but anyway. First thing - there is an ester attached to this testosterone that you conveniently miss. Second there is no average or normal level that is rellevant for the individual(biggest...

We dont know why, but yes the data is more than enough according to your own words for anecdotal data itself. I dont know why, I gave some theories but really dont know why for sure. The studies have a lot of flaws as discussed. So at the end you suggest risking the treatment being innefective...

And here we come again to the main point of the discussion: There is enough data that for many people sub q is not as effective as IM in achieving the expected serum concentrations. Which means that for this men sub q will not achieve optimal results. At the opposite site is the advantage of sub...

Your numbers are totally fine if you feel good and dont have issues with blood pressure, blood counts and cholesterol. The reference range for total t nowadays is flawed and it is absurdly low. For free t the most precise measuring methods are not available in most countries in the world, I bet...

But here we come to different people reacting different. Yes it is just a theory the BA causes this, but I know I get the biggest nodules from Sustanon. On enanthe I also was getting nodules, in both cases test levels were much lower than I would get on IM administration with this product on...

@Cataceous , @bixt so yes, my idea is that if the study for which we relay that sub q is reliable is done with testosterone with no BA this puts that study out of reality. In practice me and many other guys have reported inferior results on TRT. My hypothesis without having study to back it...

If I remember correctly it turned out the main study they rely upon is with testosterone without alcohol(correct me if Im wrong). 90 percent of the TRT users use testosterone with alcohol so this study becomes absolutelly IRRELEVANT

I've battled a lot of issues with sleep for the last ten years. Ive got stress and shift work induced insomnia 10 years ago, then I have fixed it but my sleep was never the same after that. Now most of the time I sleep well, but Ive got periods when I wake up several times during the night...

Ive heard a lot of people get sleep issues from anastrozole and this is the least this drug can cause. I suggest you find a way to remove it completely, usually people who experience issues with estrogen are having liver issues. Also dont rely on the estrogen blood tests to give you correct...

100mg weekly for sure will be better or at least not so terrible in comparison to 200mg bi weekly. But its very likely you need AT LEAST twice a week injections to feel good and have a proper libido and errection. Some guys need every other day, some guys even claim to need daily injections on...

I understand you, but then you need to understand how the system works so you have a better idea how to resolve your issues. You DONT do TRT with endocrinologists and family doctors. They are terrible at this. In USA there are maybe some 5 percent of endocrinologists that know how to do TRT...

Once every two weeks is terrible and will not work well for anyone. The levels of testosterone and all metabolite hormones will fluctuate terribly and this will cause a terrible stress for your body. In fact in every two weeks protocol for a portion of the time you will be chrmicallly castrated...

Everyone responds physically to testosterone - the benefits in muscle building, increased ability to workout harder, recovery, etc there is NO ESCAPE from that. However I know two people who havent felt the psychological effects, one of them is my brother. Both of them have been on massive...

Just for the record have you tried prop? I know it is available there

Sustanon is always peanut oil. Ive tried two pharmaceutic brands enanthate one with olive, the other with castor. The cypionate was UGL, but still the negatives were very similar to the two pharmaceutical enanthates - unexplained terrible apathy 24/7 that Ive never experienced before that in my...

Yep, also only one ester works for me. I have felt good on TRT only on sustanon(never tried propionate though but its not practical to use prop) and on enanthate and cypionate I feel way worse than pre TRT on similar dosages and blood levels as the sustanon.

Ive found a site that easily converted the units, but dont remember which one

And this nodules or swelling is common to sub q. I can tell you with our sustanon on often injections there is no way the stomach doesnt get full of them, although a few people have reported me not having them with this product, but most do get them. On me for example every single injection...

@Fortunate Also some people here may wonder why I spend so much time explaining how and why sub q didnt work well for people I know and how much lost time this caused us. As you understand I gain nothing from that, just wasting my time. I do it for the guys that may experience similar issues...

I always test before injection, except a few times when Ive tested on purpose on peak, but I have not quotted those tests here. Also I always use the same lab which is with the highest reputation in my country. If the studies in defence of sub q are perferomed with testosterone withot alcohol...

Ive explained, but let me do it again in essentials. When I started TRT in sub q it was working well INITIALLY, but at some point my total levels fell on the same dose on the same brand of testosterone around 40 percent and I tested 2-3 times in 1-2 weeks interval. Also later I tried injecting...

On my last test my progesterone was 0.32 ng/ml or 1.12nmol/l we discussed carefully those numbers and he said maybe the progesterone is enough for me and Im at the bottom of what he considers optimal values. Otherwise the range in my lab is up to 0.15ng/ml which according to him can be way too...