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It's been a week and I'm down to 1.25mg per night. Melatonin (at least after 1 week), has dramatically improved my quality of sleep. Very happy with it so far.

rhino5169 - Have you taken DHEA before? If not, I'd suggest starting at a considerably lower dose for a few days and see how you respond to it. I was feeling pretty good, but noticed my DHEA labs were low, so I bought ultra micronized DHEA from DHEA.com. Took 25mg one night and felt like garbage...

Took 5 mg of Melatonin last night for the 1st time. Within 30 minutes I conked out and had the deepest sleep I'd had in years.

If SHBG is low you'd be running through test super fast. Good to know about the Sustanon. Yes 5 is pretty low, we've all been there. I had the test that simply can back...<5.

It might suggest something is happening, but it may or may not be due to low testosterone. Stop guessing and have your blood drawn. It will tell you so much. Over the years I was convinced I knew what my problems were yet a blood test completely ruled it out. I appreciate your post but at this...

n122 - just realized that was your 1st post. Welcome to the site, there's lots of great guys here. Obviously my above comment was meant in fun.

I started reading that before breakfast and just finished up! The 1st thing I think when looking at those numbers is that your SHBG is low...but without giving any SHBG numbers, you suggest that it's actually up or maybe even high. That Florida clinic would be grossly irresponsible to give you...

thorshammer - At 45, I'm right there with you, but not convinced I'm 'middle aged!' Welcome to the site. As CoastWatcher asks, what additional symptoms do you have? I'd suggest never trying TRT without labs. Not just testosterone and estradiol but everything else you'll find in this sickies.

Yes, obviously remembering the days is crucial to long term success. But you want it to be easy too. Monday am & Thursday pm is simple to remember.

Never been a big fan of sub q. Most of the major contributors to this site report a preference for a shallow IM. I've read the daily injection guys say they inject in several different spots. Likely more due to a desire for a variety of spots with a daily protocol, more than a preference from...

Twice weekly as stated above. Another option is 3 days a week. Monday morning, Wednesday afternoon & Friday night...it's really pretty easy.

I like it.

Stewdoigg - As stated above, full Labs would be great, but at your age, and you're major challenges being a muffin top and tremendous stress, not sure that's enough to go on a medication, at least in my opinion. I have been on testosterone for three years and have never experienced atrophy of...

Yes, at 22, probably best to leave things alone and let your body make the correction. Labs would nice though if you can get them.

HarryCat - I agree. I've said it felt like taking a sleeping pill. It would knock me out pretty quick, but I'd often wake up a couple hours later and not be able to sleep again for 2- 3 hours. DHEA was just a bad deal for me. Glad to be off it.

Any need to increase DHEA if low? Not if you're feeling like crap while taking it. I started at 25mg, then 12mg and finally 6mg before I finally felt better when dropping it all together. Interesting thing is, I had high E2 symptoms without the high E2 labs numbers.

There's a lot there. Obviously you've made some mistakes. Many of us have, I certainly did. How old are you? You've got to find a way to get some labs...a few basic ones at the minimum. I once had the dredeed <5 reading on an E2 test. Hopefully others can assist with the permanent inhibitor...

Chris - No, no thyroid meds. Only test, anastrozole and a vitamin/mineral/amino acid pack.

I'll look into NAC. Was thinking the same thing about E2. I've always been decent at making small changes and waiting it out. I'm going to go with 1/8th mg AI twice weekly (currently taking 1/4 mg AI twice weekly) and see how I feel and what labs show.

Mood, libido, brain fog, sleep, and energy are all good. Obviously the high A/G ratio and Eos jump out at me. Googled it, but don't know a lot about it. Notice on page 1, there are several items without a reference range.

60 mg cypionate, twice weekly & 1/4 mg AI, twice weekly. Feeling good. No significant complaints. Occasionally some tenderness on the right side of my torso, but have had it for a couple years. Doesn't seem to get worse...or better. No pain, just enough to notice it when my mind isn't focused on...

Hey guys - Got my labs back today from DiscountedLabs.com. May be concerned about a couple things. Thought I'd run it by the forum and see if anything stands out. Thanks for your thoughts. Not too worried about the Bilirubin level, as I've had elevated levels since age 15 (currently 45).

Of course, .25ml is .25ml regardless if it's in a .5ml syringe or a 1ml syringe. Good picture Vince.

johndoesmith - those numbers make sense if using a 1 ml syringe. I'm currently injecting 60mg twice weekly and fill to .30ml. You think it would it be the same with a .5ml syringe. Orrin - There's no way I'm doing that kind of math brother.

I want to make the move to a .5ml insulin syringe. I'll inject 50mg twice weekly of 200mg/ml cypionate. What notch/line would that be on the syringe? I've thought about it for a while and the numbers just aren't adding up correctly. Thanks guys!

I think that's what I'll do. Just fight through it for a couple days before getting labs.

March & April I'm shut down with allergies here in Phoenix. Come May, I'm fine again. Just ordered some labs form DiscountedLabs.com (TT, FT, SHBG, E2, CBC, Lipid Panel, T4, TSH & Vitamin D). I take Claritin D daily (Loatadine 10 mg & pseudoephedrine 240 mg). What are your guys thoughts on if...

Get mine from Walgreens or Costco. Used to supply 10ml vials, now only give 1ml vials, 4 at a time.

buggies - Doesn't sound like you have FSH numbers from prior to staring TRT, but your low LH reading suggests secondary hypogonadism. Check out the stickies on HCG use with TRT. Some guys report a 10% - 20% increase in TT after adding HCG to their protocol.

FeelingLost - I would think a daily injections would be just as fast as gels, this of course assumes the syringes are already loaded.

billspaced - there has been some long threads on the timing thing. Seems most everyone has come to the conclusion that it's personal preference. You can consider dose amounts, the half life of a drug, etc., it's still personal preference. One of the docs said, as a generalization, HCG should be...