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I know my page says to wait until the next day but I now think that you should start after donating (I gotta change that wording). So if you donate at 8am, start the protocol at 9am or 10am. If you donate at, say, 1pm, start the protocol at 3pm or 4pm. If you donate at 3pm, start the protocol at...

I meant untreated. Your CPAP should resolve your high RBC (and eventually, high HCT) levels. If not, then your CPAP's pressure isn't high enough. You can ask your pulmonologist to send you a finger sensor to wear in your sleep to see if your O2 levels are staying in a healthy range, or if they...

"" The key to keeping the ferritin level in place is having a hemoglobin that's solid -- that's why an anemic woman with an HGB of, say, 12, will see an increase in ferritin fall right back. We are especially suited to keeping our ferritin in the TRT community. If we were to talk outside of...

The majority of research states that high hematocrit during Testosterone replacement does not present a definitive risk: "No evidence exists that a high hematocrit is harmful and a direct cause of thrombosis; in addition, many conditions that lead to a very high hematocrit are not associated...

Donation also triggers a rebound effect in most people. Guys who are anti-donation often talk about "the rebound effect" where HGB goes back up quicker after donating. The thing is, the rebound effect is dependent on hepcidin! So my protocol also removes the post-donation rebound effect. You...

Hepcidin blocks oral iron absorption at the gut. Unless you suppress hepcidin with vitamins C or D, then the oral iron is absorbed. It goes right to hemoglobin. When hepcidin is high and oral iron is blocked, hepcidin also withholds iron in liver cells (from recycled RBCs) which is raising...

What I should have said is that the vitamin C is sandbagging you. You take C and iron, your iron goes to hemoglobin first. Taking iron as per my protocol, you will bypass hemoglobin and increase ferritin far faster. Like 8 to 10 points per day. But if diabetes requires you to take it I suppose...

If you gents want to increase ferritin, you HAVE to STOP taking vitamin C during supplementation. All you're doing is absorbing the iron. You want to avoid that. You need iron to elevate hepcidin and trap iron from senescent RBCs in hepatocytes. http://vorck.com/erythrocytosis.html#ferritin

For those interested, I use hepcidin in a protocol to rapidly raise ferritin. I have a growing number of guys trying it and recovering ferritin after donating, but because there is SO MUCH BAD INFORMATION out there, I am having trouble propagating the word...

A growing number of guys have now used my protocol with success. Some have seen HGB go up a little but everyone has raised ferritin. Have a read and see what you think. https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/raising-ferritin-fast-a-how-to-not-a-question.24186/

That's a pretty good ferritin gain. Unfortunate that hemoglobin went up a full point. Hard to say if that's just your individual response, or if the iron was a tad too low (meaning using 50 instead of 60 ended up having some iron absorbed into the blood). I would say that your case tends to...

Ah I think I missed that, that you're not a big donator. That flew over my head, haha. I think 2mg (two) to 5mg (five) every day, not every other but every day, would sneak ferritin up nicely. It might seem like nothing but remember males have a good start with recycled iron from RBCs already...

I would say no. I would do only 4 or 5 days. The trigger for hepcidin is 60mg, but you are using 50mg and I think that will probably still accomplish the goal. I have not had anyone using 50mg so let me know if it worked when you look at your bloods. Let's just go with a hypothetical. Let's...

That is great news. The complication in your case might be though that depending on your body's rate of erythropoiesis, it might slowly 'steal' from ferritin as time passes. Using myself as an example, I lose about a point of ferritin every 2 weeks. That's an okay equilibrium for me. The key is...

Thank you for linking to other other discussions. I am reading them. I do give credit for inspiration, so if I steal anything, I might who knows, I'll add you in my notes. The biggest boost on this, after I read a bunch of literature, was happening across the info on Rusfertide. That pretty much...

That's pretty much it -- then, retest your ferritin to confirm that it's back to pre-donation level. The times of taking are crucial, as is avoiding Vitamins C and D (while you're doing this). No dose skipping either! For people just jumping in: the explanation is here...

I use Kirkman brand 25mg, and I also buy 5mg too so I can hit 60mg. I could buy 30's from some other brand but I know the Kirkman works so I stick with it. And yeah the hepcidin -- I sought out a hematologist who is a molecular biologist and when I asked him about iron homeostasis and hepcidin...

I have a hematologist who insists I do the same -- maintain HCT at 45. He's a nice guy but just doesn't get it, because he's in his 60s and only knows studies from decades ago. I went to a much younger doc and he and I got discussing crashed ferritin. I created a protocol that he was skeptical...

@Cataceous I read your blend thread. I was actually wondering if a mix would let me take less and have the same effect (I mean with prop) before I even ran across your thread. I had no idea people actually do it. I am 50 and my TT is at 550 and I admin 30mg EOD of Cyp. And I still have to donate...

Whatever happened with this?

Keep in mind that taking any amount of iron without an initial loading dose to raise hepcidin will keep ferritin low. Just taking iron daily will do very little if anything to raise ferritin. And vitamins C and D reduce hepcidin and channel all the iron into hemoglobin, not ferritin.

That was my heme's conception of what would happen. He knows TRT and his practice deals with a few guys like us. I said 30 is too much doc, it makes me nervous and years of donating I don't want to make myself worse. So he said allright take 25 or 20. His idea is that it should keep hepcidin up...

What's your ferritin and hemoglobin right now? Worth a try if you're low ferritin. Works best right after a donation, but can work any time.

I wanted to let everyone know that this problem has literally been solved now (ferritin can be recovered in a few days, brough to pre-donation level). I posted the answer in another forum here; here's the link...

Hi all, how to rapidly raise ferritin has now been solved. I posted the answer here: https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/raising-ferritin-fast-a-how-to-not-a-question.24186/ Since vitamin C crushes hepcidin, it has to be strenuously avoided. This is explained in the linked post.

Hi all, I do double red donations all the time without fear of crashing ferritin. This problem has literally been solved now (ferritin can be recovered in a few days). I posted the answer in another forum; here's the link...

Hi all, I started TRT in 2001 and have been giving blood over the years and have always had issues with recovering my ferritin. Long story short, I got tired of waiting for others to do the research, so I did it myself, created a protocol, hired a hematologist in May 2021 who thought it could...