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I'm 50 y/o, I was only concerned about Testicular volume till few months ago when I tried HCG mono at 390 IU EOD and I felt sooo good even when libido was not that good and then my numbers were kind of weird with not much total testosterone and E2 little high. Then I guess I felt so good...

Tommy Wall, I couldn´t tell you for sure, but certaily you would need to especify which "benefits" you want to enjoy, cause HCG gives many benefits and different doses can be used for each, it is not the same if you only want to preserve testicular volume (lowest dose), or if you want to feel...

This article was published last year, it is very interesting and mentions some different protocols for dosing HCG in different clinical situations... Indications for the use of human chorionic gonadotropic hormone for the management of infertility in hypogonadal men

What about doing it SubQ? is it ok? Works as well?

I have never used propionate, but I've read it is a painfull injection... Taking a painfull injection is not a problem to me, but if it comes to be ED or EOD for life-time then I would need to think about it May Testosterone Propionate be administered Subcutaneously as well as cypionate or...

Here my numbers on HCG (ovitrelle) monotherapy: TT: 3,28 ng/ml (2,2 – 7,15 ng/ml) FT: 18,06 pg/ml (4,5 – 42 pg/ml) Estradiol ( Inmunocolorimetric assay): 51 pg/ml (<56 pg/ml) FSH: 0,36 mU/ml (0.7 – 11,1) LH: 0,09 mU/ml (0,8 – 7,6) Total Testosterone is not amazing, Estradiol near to top...

Sure I will do it! But won´t happen untill january when will take the lab work...

Just an update: Using r-HCG (Ovitrelle) and testosterone together (doses as stated above) I crashed deeply while having elevated levels of testosterone and apparently normal E2. I decreased the dose of testosterone and had just a little improvement... then completely cut off testosterone and...

I started to feel some loose of libido and some difficulty with erections a while after begining with Ovitrelle (r-HCG), got my labs done and... sorprise... Total T: 12,55 ng/ml (high) Free T: 34,10 pg/ml (high) Prolactine 11,47 ng/ml (normal) Estradiol: 26 pg/ml It seems 110...

I got my first ovitrelle after finished with the 10 amp. of HMG, (HMG was good, and was giving me better and more stable results over time, but is too expensive). After examining the preloaded ovitrelle pen, I got the conclusion it is not necessary to prefill any syringe. Just use it as a normal...

I purchased some medicine once from Canada and it was delivered free of issues..., Now I don't remember exactly if it said it was medication... Any way, the trial wouldn't be for the medication itself, but precisely for the delivery from US to Spain. Or might be if I find ovitrelle to be very...

I am about to try ovitrelle shortly, but since I am exploring all possibilities, I got in touch with reliable RX, and they said they do ship to Spain, so probably even if am to start with ovitrelle, I will try an order of HCG from reliable RX and see what happen. I am still worried about the...

May be the solution for that problem: http://xurl.es/uoh8g http://xurl.es/i967v What I am planning to do is is to pre-load many 0.3 ml syringes from the ovitrelle pen, then store them into one of those fridging portable devices. Then I'm ready to go immedately when it is time for dose.

Update: As I said before, I'm trying HMG lepori in first place cause I already had it when I knew Ovitrelle could be splitted in microdoses... I've had 4 doses of HMG Lepori, not splitting it but taking one whole ampulle of 75 IU each FSH & LH, every 3,5 days. The ten amp. would last me 5 weeks...

1.- "Google it" is not enough, if you don't apply filters and select sources you are more likely to get wrong or outdated information. Yes, you probably can get HCG in Spain: from ilegal steroid sellers, with fake brands and/or drugs of doubtfull origen and quality. I have nothing to do with...

Thank you for the infomation. Yes, Ovitrelle is recombinant HCG or synthetic hcg, it comes in 0.5 ml single dose pre-filled syringe, equivalent to approximately 6500 IU of HCG. Then, althoug not impossible, it is challenging to dose it for trt, then, that's the question: Would it be ok to...

Would it be possible to dilute the 0,5 ml ovitrelle into a vial with 2 ml of water for injection, so you have a more manageable concentration for dosing? Anybody experiencing that? I'm afraid it could loose some properties with the interaction with water, cause of ph, osmolarity etc...

I think I'll go with ovitrelle, but since I had already ordered HMG from the pharmacy, I got it yesterday and decided to first give it a try and see the results, I took the first dose yesterday... I'll keep you updated, today I already see some effect... By the way, my wife is general...

Tommy, do you pin ovitrelle every 3 days or less?

It sounds good, but I am still concerned that it here comes as ampuoles, not vials, with the 75 IU each FSH & LH, and the manufacturer says: "Each ampoule is for single use and the injection should be administered immediately after reconstitution". I am afraid it could be because it loose its...

0,3 ml syringe helps to keep better control on that tinny amount of liquid... Here in Spain Ovitrell cost 50.63 €, but considering that it can be extended up to three months, it is still no expensive...

What if buy 0.3 ml insulin syringes and pre-fill the three (or two) bars in each one from the first day, then there is only one time of manipulation, less risk of contamination and you are ready to go immediately for every dose? You can get insulin syringes with incrustrated needle, with no dead...

I am happy to know that I don't need to leave my testes behind while on TRT... Now I see I have two options here in europe to face the lack of HCG. Now I am figuring out which one I will take since both are tricky procedures for dosing and administration. (and one is more expensive than the...

Cost do is a problem... 10 doses (liquid + powder) of 75 UI cost about 150€. Somebody told me it is possible to extend those doses with good results for my purpose through a period of time of 3 months, which then could be affordable, but the manuacturer says that any remaning amount after mixing...

The solution seems to be closer to me! Thanks Vince!

It's a very valuable information Tommy! Just starting to work on that idea now!!! Thank you VERY MUCH!!!

Now I have found out that 250 mcg of ovitrelle is as strong as 5000 UI of HCG, but it comes in a single dose preloaded syringe of 0,5 ml. How to take 25 - 50 subdoses out of it? I think HCG is out of the market in all Europe, solving this problem with ovitrelle wuold b wonderfull

Thank you Tommy. Yes I didn't look at it before, but now I just had a look in Vademecum.es and it is available in Spain, but in a preloaded syringe of 0.5ml with 250 mcg, single dose for a price of 50,63 €. So I don't see it can be usefull and affordable for TRT. Can you give me more info on...

It is true, If you are primary and lack the testes, then you lack everything produced on testes (except the amounts produced in adrenal glands), but if you have the testes and are primary, many other things may be also affected to some extension at the testes, starting by sperm production...

Thanks for your answer! I have ordered some medication from Canada some time ago and it was delivered to me in Spain without problems. But the main issue ordering HCG from abroad is the cold chain that should be kept during transportation. I do not know either if the importation of medicines...

Men who have had orchiectomy due to testicular cancer become primary, so those in that situation here could give an idea about your question needing to use an AI.