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Sw1, what are your dosages and frequencys?

S1w, 250 mg a week is the highest HG dose i can take. My presciption doesn't go higher. I already tried 100 mg twice a week. Trough was 23 nmol/l(663 ng/dl) range 12-32nmol (346-923ngdl) felt the same as on 65 eod.

Total T before trt was 274 ng/dl. I started taking testosterone to get optimized.

@madman, thanks for you're response! Really apreciate it. But just like fifty mentions, if all those measurements are incorrect or not accurate, what else to do. A lot of the specific labwork isn't available here. I gues just going by how i feel....(keeping hct and other parameters in range...

Doesn't high free t also means high free estrogen even if you have a higher SHGB? Logically you would think that high free e2 isn't something exclusively for low SHBG guys but something that always would occur if free t was high?

Very confusing. Looks like there are two camps. The one that says go as high as possible with testosterone to relieve symptoms. Even if this means total t of 1200-1600 or above and free t 30-50 ng/dl with just letting the estrogen go even if its 100 pg/ml. And never use an AI. (dr nichols, neil...

Latest e2 is 276 pmol/l range 0- 230 pmol/l(75,18 pg/ml) non sensitive. We have no sensitive test here. labs done before next inject (trough) Never used an ai and with the recent new info i doubt that it wil help. Been on several protocols every time 6-20 weeks with lab after every period. A...

Sustanon because thats the only HG test available in the Netherlands. total t 779 ng/dl range: 336-923 free t 25ng/dl range: 4-13ng/dl DHEA 7.6 umol/l (281 ug/dl)(ref: 1,2 10,3 umol/l) SHBG 14.4 nmol/l range: 7 70nmol/l TSH 1.2 mu/l ref: 0.5 -3.5 free t3 5.4 pmol/l ref: 3.1- 6.8 Free t4...

I am seeing a lot of labs in the 1000 ng/dl with very low dosages. i am on HG Sustanon 65mg eod. Total t barely gets to 778 ng/dl. free t around 25ng/dl. I am a low shbg guy so i tried the daily shots but that makes me feel even worse. Shbg always around 14-18. Even pre trt. No thyroid issues or...

Last year i had a DVT in my left leg. Since than i am on xarelto while stil on sustanon.

After a EOD protocol for a few months i recently also started with an ED protocol. I think its very personal if this works or not. Since my SHBG is 14 i hope i will benefit from this.

Exactly my question! The lifting Dermatologist is promoting a cream in Europe with 150mg/g. twice a day. I dont know if you put on a gram but that would be 300 mg. with an absorbtionrate of 10 to 50% scrotal that would mean a lot of pure test per day. No wonder they are feeling so good ;)

I think its a luxurious position to have such high levels. only thing to do is titrate down of you are having bad symptoms. Otherwise leave it there at 1200. I am struggeling to get my numbers over 778ng/dl. And i am using 70 mg sustanon eod. The curse of low shbg i think. Recently started with...

I also think that is the case. There is a lot of talk about all the peptides, HGH etc. But nowere a place to buy. Just shady sites and if there is a compounding pharmacy you can only get it with a prescription. I think that for al lot of people it is not possible to get all this.

Bridge like in playing a game with cards? This is insanity...

You would indeed think that having supraphysiological levels would yield more growht.

Systemlord, is that a calculated free t? If i would use a free t calculator your free t would be 12.9 ng/dl

Will start the daily's and see how it goes..

YBWV, I wish i could get some proviron. It's not possible to get it prescribed. Buying from underground labs isn't a long term solution for me. Balding is not a problem anymore. Sinds i was 20 i started shedding hair. Now just a shaved head:)

@Gman86, sorry, will post the reference ranges for thyroid labs: TSH 2.3 mu/l ref: 0.5 -3.5 free t3 5.4 pmol/l ref: 3.1- 6.8 Free t4 16.5 pmol/l ref: 10-25 I really don't think that any doctor in my country will start thyroid medication with these "in range" numbers. Same accounts for the...

@ Systemlord, that is a very low dose eod. What are you're total and free t levels?

my recent labs for thyroid and bloodsugar: tsh 2.3 t4 16.5 pmol/l t3 5.4 pmol/l hba1c: 5,20% Fasting glucose 5.1 mmol/l i think i am not diabetic.

Thanks for al the quick reply's! Agreed that the science is changing very very fast. So many opinions about E2 and side effects. I believe dr rouzier and dr nickols even state that al the symptoms like fat gain, gyno etc are from insuline resistance. It makes it all very confusing...

I have a low SHBG (14.4 last lab). Since measuring my SHBG (even before i started trt) it has always been between 14 and 18. I have used a lot of protocols the past 3 years with sustanon: once a week 125 mg, 150 mg 250 mg (no effect, no weightgain, no nothing. Even on 250 mg for 6 weeks what...

Thanks for your reply cataceous! There is no way i can test a lcms estradiol in my country and i only have acces to sustanon. I am confused about the estradiol since the latest insights seem to be not to treat high estradiol. There is a lot of conflicting info. I even hear that estrogen of...

Hi Al, I have been reading a long time here on the forum but decided to post here and interact more. Some background info and labs. ( Because i live in Europe i made the conversion to the us) before trt (2015) lab was: total t 274 ng/dl shbg 14.6 free t 7.86 ng/dl estrogen 23 pg/ml Could not...