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The test was at the same time of day. I feel OK, however, I have been challenged (many years) by a hearty case of tinnitus and it often affects how I'm feeling. I'm not making any connection between tinnitus and my use of Androgel - I suppose I'm saying it's often difficult to say how I'm...

These are the results of the new test 2 weeks after my original posting. I went to 1 pump of Androgel 1.62% per day for the past 2 weeks instead of the usual 2 pumps. Again, I'm a fairly active gym going 65 year old. Can anyone shed light on what these new numbers reflect - I would greatly...

Hi Sammmy - I'm a 6+ year user of Androgel so application has been the same since day 1. My WBC count is within range and yes, the platelets are low but within the normal range. Maybe you meant RBC and Hemoglobin? Thanks

That does indeed seem to be the case. She spends 8 minutes with me and has to move on so I don't expect a well thought out plan is brewing in her mind. I'm ok with that - it forces me to do some homework and be in charge of my own health. She's a GP and not an endocrinologist so I suspect her...

Agree with your comments and appreciate the input! I came to the same conclusion - half dose and retest in a week or so. She would have mentioned larger picture issues if she was aware of any - I hope. Thank you

On day 5 I applied 1 pump (instead of my daily 2 pumps) in order to avoid possible negative symptoms. Of course it's guesswork and not a sustainable solution due to psychological factors (mostly placebo...) I 'll move the blood draw up a week. Thanks Pacman for the reply! Anyone else have...

I may do that but since I'm on day 4 of cold turkey I was seeking ideas that I could implement in the meantime. Thanks for replying!

This lab draw was 12 hours after the last application of gel. I'm thinking it's better to go to 1 pump daily until next test and avoid the potential mood swings, etc.

My new physician has taken me off Androgel 1:62% gel that I have applied 2 pumps for the past 6+ years due to the bloodwork results attached. She asked me to discontinue it's use 100% for at least 2 weeks so we can redo the labs at that time. I'm on day 4 of no Androgel and am concerned the...

Almost 2 years on daily Androgel 1.62% (2 pumps) and something seems to be missing. I'm a 60 year old male and my doc thinks the numbers look good. It seems like old news but does it seem obvious to others that my numbers as of Dec/17 reflect low mood, low libido, soft wood and general malaise...

Thanks for that info. I mainly go to my present Doc just to maintain my prescriptions so moving on is not a huge issue. $1200 a year isn't terrible if that includes most labs and getting the Rx.

FL-I just enabled PM. Was not even aware of such a thing but it's ready to go. Thanks!

CoastWatcher - If one becomes a patient of Defy or other telemedicine type docs do they also issue the prescription(s) to a pharmacy of one's choosing? Most don't take insurance so do you have a ballpark figure of what they charge to manage your TRT on a yearly basis? Thank you for responding!

An update after doc's office visit today. I asked him to review the latest T readings (402/6.03) and compare them to any prior readings over the last 2+ years since they are lower now than anytime after starting with 2 pumps daily of Androgel 1.62%. I mentioned that in addition to the lower...

The lab in the doc's office was not familiar with E2 Sensitive and when I insisted they find it in the listings this is what they ordered. Estradiol looks better at 24 pg/ml vs. 6 months ago 15 pg/ml. The DHEA-S on the other hand seems high for a 60 year old man but doc says no problem.

I just received further lab results and would like feedback. Please see DHEA and E2 sensitive below. Thanks! (By the way, my doc sent me a comment regarding the T readings of 402/6.3 saying things look good. I don't agree!)

CoastWatcher - When I discussed the TRT issue with my doc in 2015 he first suggested injections and it was my choice to go with gel after he said office visits would be frequent with injecting T. I appreciate your input and will show him the Hormone Profiles info. Of all the tests (thyroid...

It seems logical at this point to switch to injections. I have avoided this route only because of the frequent visits to the docs office that will be required as I doubt he'll enable me to self-inject. I have an appointment Thursday and will discuss it with him. I have come across many protocols...

I am a 60 year old male and have maintained the same TRT protocol since early 2015 with 2 pumps of Androgel each morning. All other labs are in a normal range and have remained the same with the free and total T being the exceptions. I frequent the gym 5 x week and have not had any major life...

tengo - Any updates on this approach since September? I have been using 12.5 mg daily DHEA to raise E2 and am interested how effecitve the Clomid 8mg EOD is working out for you? thanks.

Much appreciate your input. Did you introduce other supps during the same time period as DHEA?

Would you mind sharing your dosage of DHEA and do you test your DHEA-S? I suppose one could say they were fortunate to not have high E2 on a regular basis due to the many health concerns that come with that. Nevertheless, low E2 sucks is right albeit with many but fewer health concerns at age...

lowe2sucks - Have you experienced E2 <18 pg/ml? If so, what steps have you taken to raise your levels? I came across several articles by Megan Geitz regarding hormones and the nervous system that support the Estradiol/Serotonin connection. It has me wondering if the hot weather just getting...

Vince Carter - No new supplements or diet changes. I'm wondering if Low E2 can somehow deplete serotonin levels and trigger many of my symptoms. Perhaps I'm overthinking this... I'll request the full Thyroid panel at this Tuesday's visit w/ doc. I agree that the gym can alter lab results. In...

CoastWatcher - No thyroid testing whatsoever was requested by my doc at the start of TRT. Thank you!

Vince - Agreed. For now I'm trying to get the E2 higher and topical may help with that. Thank you!

Thanks for the quick reply! btw: (TSH w/ reflex(?) is 1.59 ulU/ml) I plan on having the lab work (re)done for DHEA-S, ft3,ft4,rt3 and "sensitive" E2 as soon as the next paycheck rolls in. This time it's on my nickel and unsupported by my doc. SHBG will come later. Is the glucose/a1c different...

Hello - I am a 59 year old male and have applied 2 pumps of Androgel every morning for the last 3+ years. For the most part I've had good energy, strength, endurance & libido. I hit the gym 5 or 6 days per week for 1 - 1 1/2 hours and lift heavy (enjoying every minute). And then came last week...