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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    At the start of therapy i had testoserone prolongatum from pharmacy , i've done shot's 100mg once a week and after 2 weeks my testoserone level rose from 180pg/ml to 350 ( norm was 207-840)
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    it's 250mg/1ml, i buy on "black market" but im sure that concentration is OK
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Everyone is different, what can i do wrong ?
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Guys u have my results after 3 weeks on 250mg/week (60mg every other day) and testoserone level is 761,80 ng/dl .
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    dallas read my all posts, there are the results after taking 250mg/week
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Hey, i have my free test lab : 28,69 pg/ml norm 4,50-42 What r u think about it ?
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    My labs after 3 weeks on 70mg test eod + 250iu hcg eod + exemestane 25mg/week : Testosterone 761 ng/dl norm 249-836 Estradiol 12 pg/ml norm 8-42 SHBG 19,15 norm 18,30 - 54,10 And u see now that 250mg/week and rare injections is only good way for me...
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    I learned from the doctor that it's impossible to properly investigate free test. It can only be calculated on the basis of total testoserone and shbg. Is the appropriate model. Now im trying 250mg/week and fequent injections. After 2 weeks i will make labs.
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    I's not a typo :P With that doses my testosterone level is at the upper limit of normal
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    I also have low shbg in all labs what i done. Now I'm on 500mg/week, 250 in Monday and 250 in Thursday. I will try to inject EOD but i think dose of Testosterone must be large as in the thinner injections.
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Nelson, if I am a fast metabolizer of testosterone I must take large amounts T in my therapy ? It's safe for my body ?
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    I had visit with the best specialist of endocrinology. I have to make one more lab ( 17-OH-progesterone ), if it's good I can make LH-RH stim test to see if the pituitary works. He told me that DHEA level say nothing and it's spoof on the money... He claim that my cortisol is fine and the...
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Maybe it is worth to stop taking hcg/test, make this labs for him and after hospitalization return to TRT ? Testicles will not die at this time ?
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Doctors here dont understand our therapy, they always set aside hcg and test... you think they can make all stymulation tests without interrupting therapy ? I can try to cheat him doing labs without withdrawal hcg/test, but he can realize :\
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Hey, I'm after visit with a doctor, he said that I had to stop taking any measures like hcg, testosterone and after a month make new labs (lh,testo,cotrisol,DHEA-SO4,fsh). He need it as a basis to put me in the clinic for a whole week and make some stimulation tests (CRH,ACTH etc.) What are you...
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    I have appointment with a good doctor for 8 days so i'm left to wait patiently. In most cases treatment of cortisol/dhea make patient feel better ? In Poland there are no drugs with T3 like cytomel on sale, all patients are treated with T4....You think i can try treatment of Cytomel if...
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Do you think that the proper treatment of the andrenal glands may contribute to the improvement of thyroid hormones ? Or it's separate issue that requires a seperate treatment ?
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Cooper it's impossible to alleviate the symptoms that i have by replace injections to gel. I dont make injections once a week cause I use long testosterone esters and it's better to hit smaller amounts and more often. Have you seen my diurnal cortisol ? Here is the cause of my problems.
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Thanks Chris for ur all answers. I wonder about one more thing - it's possible that pituitary gland stopped producing hormones like LH/FSH but she still produces a good amount of ACTH ? - as you noticed my acth level is far from the lower limit of normal.
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Thanks for help, I will go to physician as soon as its possible and give you information what he came up with my sytuation. I've done MRI of my pituitary gland when i discovered low testosterone and it was OK. You think that physician should give me DHEA+hydrocortisone in the context of therapy...
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Yes its saliva lab. It's impossible to do in my country saliva cortisol test in laboratory, my samples have been sent to lab in Germany - there developed, translated and sent back to me. I have some gaphs(charts) but i post here only "dry" results. I arrange an appointment with physician, what...
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Hey, i have results of DHEA/Cortisol : Cortisol morning : 3133 pg/ml lab norm : 1850-14570 Cortisol after 2 hours : 1493 pg/ml lab norm : 1300-10290 Cortisol after 5 hours : 1012 pg/ml lab norm : 760-5690 Cortisol after 8h : 763 pg/ml lab norm : 650-4380 Cortisol after 12h : 893...
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Im waiting for results of panel saliva cortisol/DHEA. I think that next week I'll have them.
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Hey again, I have some results : ACTH 18,10 pg/ml lab norm : 5.00 - 46.00 Antibodie TPO 0,31 IU/ml lab norm : 0 - 5,61 Anti Tgab 1,43 IU/ml lab norm : 0 - 4,11 What r u think about it ?
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Thank you very much Chris for the information and interest in my topic. In the next week i will go to lab to check Reverse T3 and these antibodies. I also ordered a special samples from the laboratory to investigate the diurnal salivary cortisol levels.When I will have the results as soon as I...
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Im sure that its not sleep apnea. My thyroid values : TSH 1,480 lab norm 0,55 - 4,00 pmol/l FT3 4,97 lab norm 4,7 - 7,20 FT4 13,27 lab norm 10,7 - 18,40
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    I thought about Adrenal fatigue...I have a lot of symptoms : feeling tired, run down, difficulty getting up, feeling depleted in the morning and feeling more energetic at the end of the day. And i need coffeine to do something. I checked cortisol morning and afternoon and it was ok, in the means...
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    Question about testosterone level and constant tiredness

    Hey everyone, I'm 21 and 6 month ago I diagnosed hypogonadism, my testosterone was 180-220 ng/dl (lab standard was 250-827) and i started therapy : First it was 120mg testosterone/week and 100 iu hcg every day. After 1-2 months i checked again my hormones and testosterone was only 350 ng/dl...
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