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Why not split EOD, and maybe up the dose if you need to. 100mg is fine, but split it and there should be no crazy fluctuation.

A blockier look is what would set it off nicely but you have the meat. You have a Goku chest. Google it and it should make you feel better about your mass, all you need is to bring more focus to lats, traps and back, and arms. Body dysmorphia has you thinking too much. Im the same way. My chest...

Mine would do the same thing, and microdosing HCG at 150iu EOD is a good to way to make em hang back down. Two large doses will most certainly spike your E levels and you could have a reaction to the fluctuations, this is why HCG is hard for some guys to manage or work with. Split your doses.

drop the AI first. Up your T dose just a bit, and lower your HCG. Inject T EOD and alternate with 150iu of HCG EOD. This keeps E where it should be according to to your T levels. The key is to let your body adjust. It may take little or some time. But once that is set you’re good to go. If you...

I dont know... but maybe its not the worst of side effects. You can always have them tattoo’d back in

Yep, he told you to stop... what a jackass. Well, I think that lowering little by little wouldve been better for you. But I also think that if you have a hematocrit of 54 with no symptoms you’re fine. Its nicer to have it lower so 160mg a week wouldve done the trick. After a while your body...

Hey Charlie. Do you work out? Proper workouts I mean.

Ok good to hear about things getting back to normal. So just to get a clear picture. Are you still on TRT? What dose?

Ya know, drinking beer is something that can impact things while on TRT. Ive been a lighter drinker since I started TRT. Im not able to drink like I used to, and I prefer it that way. TRT has made me healthier so the only time I drink beer is when I work on my project car, and lately Ive had a...

Its only my .02 on the topic of Test C not causing bloat. Testosterone is testosterone. Esthers and their half lives plus the carrier oil can have some effects on the body, and dosed correctly our endocrine system knows what to do with it. This may take some time on some people. As for AI, well...

Gels are a horrible form of TRT. Absorption depends heavily on the patients skin, and not a good idea to use it on your scrotum. But if you do try it, let us know.

Those estrogens are not to be confused with Estradiol. Sure we are being bombarded with industrial estrogens but what can you do? Avoid plastics, and thats about it. I would say take your testosterone and enjoy the benefits of higher T. Again, enviromentall estrogens are not Estradiol.

EOD shots

At 51% I wouldnt worry, Pre TRT I was 50% and mine rose to 51% 12 weeks in. In a month Ill know where Im at again. How is it that youre having trouble on walks, yet killing it in the gym?

You lowered your dose. Maybe you’re one of those guys who needs more and not less. The higher doses let me sleep like a baby. Im at 175mg and started with 160mg. If you’re aiming for a sub 1000 total T you’re probably short changing yourself based on thinking that theres a magic number you...

Test C over here and Im lean with nowater retention. Its all an individual reaction, and lets not forget diet.

Im gonna exit this thread too. I think the OP has enough info

I will continue to say AI is not necessary if you are optimized and you continue to take em. Im sure at some point you will figure it out for yourself. End of story. If you reply one more time, one more time... it is thou who is being juvenile. Good day.

Your labs mean nothing to me and don’t prove that you’re on TRT. What you’re saying though is that if I took away your AI, your world would be turned upside down. You’re not fine. And stop saying “we”. You’re the gullible one who believes that Im a 17yr old who can buy alcohol in foreign countries.

You should watch the video over and over. I love that the good doctor explains that not everyone is optimized with top of the range numbers. Perhaps if you lowered your T or your HCG dose, you wont need any AI.

Yep, low doses will make you start pissing like a race horse. A sign that you’re shedding water. Try it.

Definitely. You live in a great region.Too bad you're being pushed into a box though. I hope you’re able to solve these issues with your doc. They can be hard to work with.

I see what you mean. He will have to make that choice for himself since its his protocol. Now just as a precaution, standalone Test is a foundation. Baseline may not be reached til he adds HCG. So I get what you’re saying. Restructuring his hormone panel is going to take time, of course.

HCG is definitely a part of TRT. Im on it, but he has to set a nice solid baseline after messing around this much. HCG can be added of course, Just enough to stimulate the Leydig Cells though, and not to the point that his estrogen spikes. Taking Test in isolation is just his start point.

I see that life can be very tough in EU due to these restrictions. The only answer is to move

Still having the same color stool?

Baseline is where you can gauge where things should go. He has to simplify this mess. Lower his supra doses to manageable TRT doses with no HCG to also keep E levels from climbing. Once he is stable in 8-12 weeks he can decide to add 1 thing at a time and see if it makes a positive or negative...

then join them, and stay put. Your empty words are lighter than the stones you cast. If someone walks in wanting to lower their dose to TRT levels then theyve walked into the right place. This is not in any way promoting the use of AAS or PED. Its quite the opposite.

Recreate a baseline with no HCG. Test only

That works well too. The less you take all at once, the less amount of aromatase should occur

With the lower dose of T, no AI is always a good idea, so with less Test you should be also see a drop in your E. Your body has to stabilize. Too soon to tell. You are the teacher, the student , and the guinea pig. No one else is in charge of what you do. So lowering the dose is a good start...