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Why did you make a second post? Sounds like you are using lots of supplements. If so, there are too many variables in play. Dial in your T levels first and then worry about the rest

I have experimented quite a bit with Natesto and the much cheaper Empower nasal gel. See links below. In summary, it looks great on paper, but results were just OK. I find it hard to imagine using this stuff for the next 20 years. To each his own...

@Cataceous is the man to listen to on the blends. When I test different blend ratios, I always keep it simple by injecting separately with two different syringes usually for 1-2 weeks just to get feel of it. Bit of a pain, but not that bad. Once satisfied, I blend up a batch using a sterile...

Sorry I meant to say my "first" year of TRT. Yes, am still on TRT, but at much lower dose. Currently between 6-7mg per day.

This is the balancing act with TRT. I would love to be on higher T dose, but trade-off is not worth it.

I experienced the same during my year of TRT as have others on this forum. It is usually dose dependent. Mine went away as soon as I lowered the dose. Your daily dose looks reasonable. Maybe test whether dose is the driver by reducing dose to 7mg daily and see what happens?

Interesting to see the injectable base + cream in action. What do you feel are the benefits? Sorry if I missed an earlier thread, but what do your numbers look like on this protocol?

If this forum is any indication, the vast majority of guys who start with or later try cream eventually return to injections for a variety of reasons. As @Fortunate mentioned, one hybrid approach is to establish base with low dose injectable and then top-off with dab of cream for some daily...

Definitely morning for Prop-only. I eventually switched to blend of Enan/Prop to even out the ride with some experimentation involving straight Enan low dose. https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/test-results-for-8mg-daily-blend-enan-prop.27084/

I figured the same and tried that strategy with Prop last year. End result was even worse early morning awakening than before similar to what Cat had commented. But you never know until you experiment!

Just to clarify, the only forms of fast acting T that do not shut down internal production are nasal gel/cream (Natesto or Empower) and troches (which @readalot has commented on before). Unfortunately Testogel and other transdermal creams linger too much in your system and therefore shutdown HPTA

It's positive that you making honest assessment of the situation. Lack of T was never your issue with those numbers. If it were me, I would quit cold turkey, power through couple of rough weeks, and let the natural production bounce back. Then start looking elsewhere for root of your problem...

Did you find out from Empower pharmacist the reason why Enanthate only contains benzyl alcohol, but no benzoate like Prop?

Lower your daily dose for sure. Prop has much higher peak than either Cyp/Enan. It can be bit of a rough ride because of the peaks and valleys which is why some guys guys blend prop and enanthate

Prop is fast acting so yes its best used daily. There are couple of great threads on the topic.

Don't chase the dragon! Its gone and it ain't coming back

Do you subjectively notice any other HCG benefits?

Have you tested this protocol without the HCG? (I am wondering how much the HCG boosts your TT levels via endogenous production). What have you experienced as main benefit of HCG? I am also a low dose guy as you may remember, but never had much success with HCG although I have thought about...

Most definitely although I have concluded that, as usual, it is dose dependent. When I was on straight propionate, the sharp daily peak provided lots of energy which was difficult to harness. I would often forget what the hell I was doing. TRT reminds me of caffeine - a modest amount...

Most daily guys including myself have tried 1x or 2x per week and did not like it due to the swings. However, there are several popular threads about guys preferring less frequent injections. Its just personal preference and how your body responds. You've clearly done your homework and...

Try the much heralded 10mg daily (cypionate or enanthate). Only 70mg per week, but my guess is that you will exceed TT of 700. You have same SHBG as me and I only use 7-8mg daily. There are number of us dosing in 50-60mg weekly range. But even at low dose TRT may aggregate your BPH. Only...

To echo what was said above, once you get comfortable with Subq injections, moving to daily will be easy. Smaller amounts and you don't have to keep track of your injections day. 5 minute routine in morning like cup of coffee.

The ingredient list is printed on the vials I receive from Defy/Empower. You could call one of their pharmacists to ask why the difference between Enan and Prop

Empower's Enanthate only contains benzyl alcohol as well (no benzoate) according to ingredients list

With the exception of Xyosted, all of the injectables will have some type of preservative since you are piercing the vile multiple times. Its just a question of how much.

70-80mg per week would probably put you in nice sweet spot of 700-800 TT. 10mg daily cypionate = 7mg of actual T which is consistent with natural production of healthy young male

Yikes. I see that it also "has vasodilating and spasmolytic effects and is present in many asthma and whooping cough drugs."

Yes, at least according to the ingredient listing. Perhaps to speed up Prop absorption? They both have the 1% Benzyl Alcohol

From an older thread, look at differences between the two Empower formulations: Propionate (100mg/ml): Benzyl Benzoate 15% / Benzyl Alcohol 1% as preservative Enanthate (200mg/ml): Benzyl Alcohol 1% as preservative The post below talks about the role of Benzyl Alcohol in initiating a burst of...

Interesting that you have experienced it with all three Enan / Natesto / Xyosten, which I would consider very different in terms of timing. If your theory is right, one would think Natesto would cause the worst problems for you because of how fast your T drops back to normal on any nasal T...

Please use mg, not ml so people can understand your dosing. Very hard to follow this thread otherwise.