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Why did they switch her from injections to cream?

You're right of course Charlie that many on this forum are here because they are having issues and/or trying to find ways to minimize side effects. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the "old protocols" work for the majority who are not seeking out advice ono forums. I would be very...

I ended up switching to low dose daily injections using Enan/Prop blend. I am at 7-8mg per day. No heavy chest feeling, most likely because I am at much lower TT level than before with less water weight https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/test-results-for-8mg-daily-blend-enan-prop.27084/

This is why I always say Natesto looks good on paper, but the results are underwhelming. Having experimented quite a bit with Natesto and Empower nasal gel, you definitely feel a surge similar to caffeine when peaking a hour later, but I experienced zero boost on libido. My pet theory has been...

I've similar feeling with big T spikes - for example, when on straight propionate or even nasal T gel (Natesto & Empower), both fast acting. The heavy chest would go away by the evening as T levels drop. But without a doubt, the heaviest breathing issues were on the classic 100mg week...

Ahhh Doc, I'll have what he's having...

Interesting. Do you sense that the slow down is due mostly to age? Or do you feel that your endurance has suffered post TRT? If the latter, what do you think is the main TRT-related driver? Water weight, labored breathing, increased heart rate, etc?

Great thread @Gman86 . I have often wondered the same usually at this time of year with the Tour de France. When above range, my cardio dropped off significantly with that heavy breath feeling. The 10+ lbs of water retention at higher levels did not help either. I have also wondered how a...

Not TRT itself, but excessive amount of T can exacerbate it in my experience. I've read quite a few anecdotes on this forum about guys feeling flat after going supra-physiological. This is certainly what happened to me when I hit top of range or over. Dose changes (increase OR decrease)...

I feel for you having myself experienced bouts of flatness over the past several years. The only thing I can say with certainty is that age and excessive T make it worse. It certainly seems related to dopamine, but tough to tell for sure. Like @sammmy and @bixt have said, you need to cut back...

Selegiline still on my radar (from another thread). Going to experiment with it at some point. I know there are lots mixed reviews out there.

Keep us posted on your experiment

Interesting to hear this experience because I had always people were taking Wellbutrin to minimize that flatness feeling

Great feedback. Is microdosing Wellbutrin effective for bumping up dompamine? Or is there a minimum effective dose that must be followed? We talk a lot about lack of dopamine being major driver for lack of libido.

Great post. But why the high HCG dose if you know it significantly increases your E2?

If anything, benzyl benzoate would make it worse if vasodilating is indeed the cause. Vasodilation - Wikipedia BENZYL BENZOATE also "has vasodilating and spasmolytic effects and is present in many asthma and whooping cough drugs."

My levels were in that range for 5 years before TRT. My advice is to temper your expectations of HRT. It is not a panacea for all that ails you. It can certainly help in certain areas, but its not going to deliver what the TRT marketing brochures claim. Read around the forum about dosing...

Sweet mother, I would have experienced anxiety too about using that harpoon 2x per week! My favorite insulin needle for delt was 29 gauge x 1/2". I have long since moved on to subq with 31 gauge x 5/16

I learned my lesson on that tendency early in the TRT process. I was 100% certain that [x] was causing [y], but eventually realized that you need to give it time before making proclamations. I look back at my journal and see so many foolish conclusions later proven wrong. Now I give it at...

So you stopped taking DHEA and Preg? I saw above that you had previously concluded that these two were the answer to the riddle.

I wouldn't recommend chasing that 20s dragon. TRT's suppression of HTPA system makes that virtually impossible. My TRT benchmark is to feel better than I did pre-TRT in my late 40s (which was basically shit)

This site gives you rough idea of the ramp up period (or step down) for various esters like Cypionate. Just input your dose, schedule and T type. https://www.steroidplotter.com/

Unfortunately, T dosage is only part of the story. When you figure it out let me know! https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/6-months-into-trt-minimal-effects-no-libido-thinking-of-stopping.27829/

I posted some notes here on my experiences with Empower's nasal gel/cream: https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/my-notes-on-empower-nasal-t-gel-experiment.25326/

This accurately describes my Monday to Wednesday experience every work week lol

This thread reminded me to give Selegiline a shot to increase dopamine which @Cataceous mentioned in post below. Cat - are you still microdosing Selegiline? https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/using-protocol-change-to-spike-dopamine.25879/#post-231118...

I don't know how I missed this one thanks Madman. Should be required reading for men contemplating TRT. I was one of the suckers who fell for the Low T marktease about libido (although TRT has certainly been helpful in other respects) This quote still holds the key IMO: Dopamine, serotonin...

Many thanks for follow up. Even the 5mg level is very interesting. Was that with ester or without?

Where did you read this? Many of us low dose guys can confirm that even small amounts (well below 9mg per day) shut down LH. I would agree that there are degrees of HTPA suppression - i.e., 200mg per week versus 50mg per week - although even that is debatable

5mg per week? I'm all for micro dosing, but that is extreme. I have found that 6mg of Enanthate daily is low as I can go and still get some benefit from the TRT

Check your scale. I gained nearly 15lbs of water weight during my first go with Cypionate.