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What was your pre-TRT baseline TT? Was it much lower than your most recent TRT result?

Its the blend with propionate that spikes the daily peak. Prop is remarkably potent on daily basis

Damn! Men would flock to TRT if they experienced the same

You could try reducing the amount you inject at any time by using more frequent injections (e.g., every other day EOD or even daily) Also, if you're going subq, use a smaller needle like 31 gauge x 5/16.

The worst I've felt on TRT involved cypionate, but in fairness there were many other variables involved including a different carrier oil (cottonseed versus grape). However, like others have said, I've read countless accounts on forums of guys preferring enan over cyp and rarely the other way...

Did you experience any of the anhedonia/blunting that is being discussed as possible side effect?

Let me know if you find out!

From much of the discussion around here, the problem is multi-faceted, but lack of dopamine is a major factor.

Quite possibly the best line I've ever read on this forum. A Cat classic. Hemmingway could not have said it better. You mention a possible "reset" period. Do you think there is a reasonable dose that would provide on-demand libido similar to Viagra / Sildenafil? Let's say once per week...

I've read (and experienced) very similar accounts. My pre-TRT sleep was terrible and included many early morning awakenings. At the right dose, TRT helped me move beyond that. However, at higher doses, I was back to those early morning awakenings with similar over-heating. Not sure if E2...

After that initial test (and symptoms), personally I would have decreased, not increased dose. The resting HR going down is weird though for the 90mg protocol.

The main problem is that most guys have unrealistic expectations when starting TRT because they desperately want to believe the Low T marketing machine. Who wouldn't want to get swole with 24/7 boners all while getting rid of "brain fog"?? Then they find out that TRT does not live up to the...

Buy the Empower pharmacy version instead. Its comparable and cheaper

Thanks for the exchange. You are not allowed to question his wisdom !

Like many on here, I struggled on standalone cream. But there have been couple of threads about idea of using cyp/enan injectable as steady base and then adding dab of cream in morning to spike T earlier in the day (similar to adding propionate). I have always been intrigued by this protocol...

Probably not since it will result in even less nightly variation, but the dose reduction could. 10mg daily subq is much praised (results in approx 7mg of actual T net of ester, which matches average daily production of healthy young male).

That's a great question. While the science says otherwise, I definitely noticed a difference in strength/performance and muscle at 100mg weekly (laughably low for BBers), about 10% if I had to quantify. Then again I am a skinny bastard and truthfully, I doubt if anyone other than myself...

You've been around the block so you probably already know that exogenous T can excite the CNS. It's a function of dose as @sammmy mentioned. I have had similar problem over the years where I feel great physically at top of range dose, but it destroys my sleep. When using straight Enanthate...

How much was your daily creatine intake?

After two decades of doing the usual core stuff, I started trying different animal crawls and so-called primal movements (bear crawls, crab walk, sit throughs, etc). Sounds (and looks) goofy, but it has been game changer and it oddly relaxing. Highly recommend it.

Thanks for the write-up. Were you injecting only 3-5mg Prop daily at one point? Or was that with Sustanon? I am surprised you can inject prop before bedtime. It would keep me awake

To each his own. 30mg prop daily would wreck me with side effects. Hell, 10mg had me wired well into the night

Well only 8mg of straight Prop peaked me at 1200 TT !

Ever the mystery...

Bump of +90 ng/dl does not seem worth it unless there is pain issue

Thanks for the continual updates. Are you saying it killed off morning wood that you had pre-Wellbutrin? Or you had this problem before?

Agreed that the 90+ page thread gets tainted by this product. Too bad because it includes many good anecdotal nuggets on value of 10mg daily protocol and this is coming from bodybuilders lol (a skeptical crowd on low dose to say the least!). One thing that has intrigued me is Emeric's...

No unless they have changed it. Here are the other ingredients in Empower's formulations: Propionate (100mg/ml): Benzyl Benzoate 15% / Benzyl Alcohol 1% as preservative Enanthate (200mg/ml): Benzyl Alcohol 1% as preservative A few of us have speculated (including @Gman86) about whether Benzyl...

I have used both Natesto and Empower nasal cream and never experienced what you describe

I would definitely say Prop is better suited for daily due to the fast acting T spike. Go subq like others have said because daily shallow IM can be challenging over the course of years. If it were me, I would try Enanthate (some tolerate it better including myself) on daily basis with subq...

Thanks for the info, you may want to change title because "shards" makes it sound like there are pieces of glass in there.