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It's a good point Granger, I did in fact give them the Hikma info. Yes, I suppose it's quite possible that the pharms have so many changes in supply that it's difficult to keep track of things. But then I've never been too sympathetic to anybody who doesn't know what's happening in their field...

Yes Madman, your suggestion is where I was headed if my pharmacy didn't work out. I've got a nice supply now, so things should sort themselves out by the time I run dry . . .

Well I got my endo to allow an advanced pickup on some Delatestryl; my pharmacist made it sound like I got the last one in Ontario . . . and doesn't know anything about the Hikma replacement. Another pharmacist (Costco) told me yesterday that he thinks they have some "in storage". He out and...

Granger, I'd like that to be the case, after all I figure the makers of Delatestryl know how to make it after almost 7 decades of doing so. What makes you think it's just a name change vs being made by a different company (Hikma)?

Hey Madman, I know you gave us the heads up on this, thanks again . . . I was more flabbergasted that neither the pharmacist or the endo knew of it. It's a fairly major chain, you think they'd have some of the new stuff in stock if it were available. Having the catalogue shots and reference...

As most of us know, our beloved Delatestryl has its days numbered. I think production stopped, after 68 years, in April. I started T very recently and I'm due to run out of my first bottle on June 8, and had hoped the pharmacist would save me a bottle. I contacted him today telling him the...

I would not lead you astray, that's a promise! Most certainly not! I have great confidence in your words first and then those of a select few others on the forum. I was checking for a Dynacare in my hometown and discovered, to my shock, that a new one has located in an office building about a...

Yet another option that I'll keep tucked away, thanks!

If you are hitting a robust trough TT 700s 4 days (96 hrs) post-injection then your peak TT would be much higher! It is hard to believe that I got such a strong response from only 70mgs per week. I have always, however, been quite sensitive to any drugs that I took, so this seems consistent...

Hello Madman and Systemlord; thank you both very much for your timely input - I suspected as much but needed to hear it yet again. Madman had kindly sent a link to private blood testing that's available in Ontario through Dynacare. I intend to continue the TRT another couple of months and then...

I'm 68 and started TRT on the gel therapy on Dec 20/23. I was on that for 3.5 months before it was finally determined that it wasn't working right. I then went on TE injections on April 6, taking a rate of 10 mgs per day, injecting 40 mgs every 4th day (equivalent to 70mgs per week). Only...

Wow Gman, that is some post, I can see that you truly must have become obsessed with this topic since the age of 13 . . . your research is very detailed. Nobody is willingly going to go from a diet that makes them feel optimal, to a diet that makes them feel less optimal, unless the happiness...

Hello Gman, I hope you are well. Very often being goal oriented means that you have to picture yourself in the future in a certain place, and if it's a desirable place, to then work backwards to find out what steps are necessary today and in the coming period to expedite your arrival at the...

I'm 68, started 70mg TE one month ago to combat what I think is premature fatigue when active. I don't know much about T at all. But that doesn't mean I don't know about life - I do. I had cancer and open heart surgery; I often wonder how or where I got it from. It's difficult to categorize...

Good to hear that you're satisfied with your Hikma TE. Good luck getting your TRT dialed in, I can appreciate how complex it is for a young man who wants T and to still remain fertile.

Madman, you are a wealth of information and I thank you for that. It's pleasant to know that the option of enanthate is still open in generic form. BUT . . . what if, for example, there were a problem in sourcing the raw materials such that Hikma suffered the same fate as Bausch? Would Health...

Gman, are you happy with the Hikma TE? I think this is going to become a big question now that Delatestryl's days are numbered . . .

FunkOdyssey, I was just reading older posts about Hikma E and saw that both you and GMAN86 were big users of that product. I'm pleased to see that you think highly of the Hikma E, since that will likely become my default. In searching the internet, I was alarmed at some of the negative...

Looks like we are stuck with the generic Testosterone Enanthate manufactured by Hikma. This is disappointing; I just started the Delatestyrl and was beginning to get some good results. It highlights one concern I had of TRT, which is that I'd become dependant on outside sources of T . . . and...

Ideally, my current protocol (70mg test cyp split twice a week) will help me stay fit, strong, trim, healthy, sexual for the next 20 or 30 years from 59 years old to 80+ instead of the usual decay that most of us get. Those are my thoughts exactly. I was driving with my wife when an older man...

Gell, that sounds GREAT to me; my goal through the whole TRT episode is to have basically what you're getting. I want to work my way through fatiguing too quickly with exercise and work, then to recover a bit quicker from pesky little injuries, and to finally change my body composition by...

There's a hereditary disposition to it; your sibling also had it which is a strong indicator. Some people get it, some don't.

Thanks for the response. I suspect that I'm much the same as you regarding drug responses. I've always had a strong response to small amounts that the doctors say should not work. I've had a bad back for many years. I'll sometimes take 1/2 an aspirin a day for a two week period, and after a...

Gibbon, that's intriguing that you have such a strong result from such a small dose. Why the dosing EOD; would one injection a week not suffice? Can I ask, have you always been more sensitive to other drugs that you've taken . . . meaning you don't need much drug to realize a good effect?

These kinds of discussions are unfortunately always of little merit. People are guided by a belief bias; they automatically support a conclusion that is in sync with previously established values and preferences, while rejecting evidence to the contrary. In other words, they believe what they...

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Hey Blackhawk, I can't help but feel a bond with a fellow lymphoma survivor. I'm intrigued with the dosage at 47.6 mgs per week. Is this truly where you felt best, or did you limit the dose because of side effects like Hematocrit and E2? I sometimes think of what degree of improvement I'd have...

I'm in Canada also. No, I'm not a young man like you, I'm 68, but have had much the same issues as you for a decade or so. My biggest complaint is fatigue and the fact that I'm constantly sore and seemingly unable to heal (quickly) from all these pesky little injuries. I've also had bouts of...

I had read that nipple sensitivity was common amongst those beginning TRT, but goes away "eventually". Not yet for me. Are you saying that nipple sensitivity could just be a normal long run part of it, and is not necessarily tied to aromatization and gynecomastia? That would be a big relief...

Vince, it's remarkable that your T could be that high, and yet your hematocrit, hemoglobin and estradiol are at ideal levels. That's not going to be me; my hematocrit was 47-49 before I ever started TRT, and crept up to 50 after my recent 3.5 month stint on that crappy T-gel . . . and from what...