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  1. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Oh wow I didn't know you injected daily coast. What is your protocol? Do u think I could eliminate AI at 50mg eod or should I go lower??? In your opinion.
  2. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Yes coast I was injecting twice a week for a total of 200mg/wk and .5mg Adex per week split into two injections. I could keep same protocol and cut Adex dose in half OR Try 50mg eod no AI in an effort to eliminate the ANASTROZOLE all together. Although I'm not sure if I would still need a...
  3. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Anything Vince, I know you once ran that same protocol. Are you still running 50mg eod???
  4. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Hey Coast! Labs were taken immediately prior to injection... So my low point. Yes bro this was standard Estradoil testing and I have definitely felt low e2 symptoms at times. My trough seemed a little low Im not sure where I am peaking but I can definitely feel a dip. Shbg = 21
  5. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Hey guys, Finally got some numbers. Running 100mg of cyp and .25mg Adex twice a week. I believe VC used to run this same exact protocol. Anyway it's still a little up and down. A bit of a roller coaster. E2 fluctuates. High and low symptoms from day to day. Suggestions gentlemen...
  6. J

    Why is 200 mg/wk the "upper limit" for TRT?

    Haha NOOOOOO. You're fine. It's just that lower shbg guys are more sensitive to estrogen as they have more free t and free e floating around. For example I am low shbg and 900 TT takes my free t Above range but Estradoil complications come with it. I'm gonna start at .25mg twice a week...
  7. J

    Why is 200 mg/wk the "upper limit" for TRT?

    Great stuff man. Do you know your shbg figure??? Adex always crashed me as well. But I actually don't think it will at 100mg (2x/wk). I'm guessing your shbg is >25 I could be wrong.
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    Why is 200 mg/wk the "upper limit" for TRT?

    Hey Gallan... Are you splitting up your injections? 100mg (2x/wk) puts my trough at 900 as well... Although I am low shbg and sensitive to Estradoil. I like 100mg (2x/wk). It's a solid dose. Done playing around with 16mg daily and shit like that. I definitely need an AI. Labs and how I feel...
  9. J

    Why is 200 mg/wk the "upper limit" for TRT?

    Haha it's amazing nobody responded to those labs. Those bloods look perfect man! Lol Are you still on th same protocol? After experiencing Wanting low dose daily and low dose EOD I'm going back to high dose twice a week. Feels better. Erections no comparison. Strength is up. E2 toughest...
  10. J

    Gene's Nitric Oxide Stack

    What a thread! Couldnt read it all but Gene the link for the Iicarin in the beginning is 300mg you split those in half?
  11. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    I hear you man. And may go that route. A lot of knowledge on here and I do feel like I'm heading in the right direction. I'll post labs as soon as I stick to something. But patient symptoms and reports way more important than a number as far as e2 is concerned. Everyone is different...
  12. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    My "trainer" suggested 60/60 for a month and get labs. I wanted to do that. But the night sweats were almost unbearable last night. Could not sleep. I clearly needed some AI. .25mg was clearly too much. Why feel like crap for a month just to get a number just to try a low dose...
  13. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Hey man thanku. Just crazy because my night sweats and insomnia went away after Adex... But now I am way too low. Hands are spotty and my joints hurt. You're so right... .25 is a lot for me. I probably just need a tiny tiny bit. But do need it for sure.
  14. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Yeah man... I could have even cut the .25 in half. And yes... Now I'm too low. I'm getting closer. Trial and error. I believe that 120mg/wk is the perfect dose for me. Ero, do you think if I split up my injections to 40mg (MWF) I might not need the AI at all? I like deep IM it's...
  15. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Hey Ero, So I lowered my T dose and my last shot was Thursday afternoon. As Saturday rolled into sunday my libido was raging. I wonder if less is more with the T? I hadn't taken anastrozole since last Sunday and tonight I was getting really bad night sweats like dripping. I could not fall...
  16. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Thanks man. It's just tough because the slightest my e2 moves really effects how I feel. I've been high e2 before... And I got to be honest... That felt a hell of a lot better than low e2. Although I looked like a marshmallow. So it's a difficult balancing act. And then my mind goes...
  17. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Ero, How do I know how much I need? I'm on 50mg of Tcyp every three days. I went a week without Adex and estrogen was definitely creeping up. Took a .25 Adex and after one day was too low again. So maybe I answered my own question. Maybe I can try .125 once a week. If it takes me...
  18. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    I did but did not give the boost of an injection. I suppose could cut tabs smaller or get liquidex I just need a touch.
  19. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Is HCG Always Needed with Testosterone Replacement? It's just so frustrating man. Anastrozole takes my e2 too low every ****ing time. But if I don't take it at all my estrogen climbs too high. So what the **** should I do??
  20. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    I'm helpless guys. I'm sorry you wasted your time reading and responding to this thread. I try to get off the Adex... But after three days like clockwork I get extremely puffy and bloated and lose morning wood. So I take a .25mg of anastrozole. Within an hour I start feeling like crap...
  21. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    I took .125 Adex yesterday and it absolutely took me too low. Joint pain. No morning wood. Yellow teeth Bhanot shedding. Just the weird low e2 feeling overall. Had to take more T this morning to raise e2.
  22. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Thx Vince. Yeah I also have liquidex. I may just need a touch right now.
  23. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Nelson, I won't know until I get labs. But based on past labs probably TT 350-450 and E2 25-35. I'm taking the advice of this forum, which has overwhelmingly been between 100-120mg/wk 2 or more injections no AI and get labs to adjust. I settled on 30mg (eod) No AI I have serious brain...
  24. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    I love HCG nelson. But I HATE Anastrozole. There is no way I can include hcG while trying to stop AI cold turkey. It's already bad enough I have lowered my T significantly. Some of us may need Anastrozole in appropriate doses. 30mg (eod) will probably put my T at low 400's (max) and e2...
  25. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    I should just "live with it." Acceptance is probably my answer right now. Anyway, Im hoping that every other day injections will balance things out. I've dropped down from 160mg/wk to 105mg/wk (30mg eod) and have stopped Adex cold turkey. This won't even take my TT that high... But free T...
  26. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Vince, Since last Thursday. I realize it takes some time. You recommended "weaning off." So, just take it as needed? That's created confusion for me in the past. Maybe should have went 40mg (eod).
  27. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Good morning guys, I am turning to this forum for some support more than anything. After a year and a half battle with Anastrozole I dropped it cold turkey and lowered my T dose significantly. I'm taking 30mg (EOD) with an insulin syringe into delt. I'm feeling bloated, emotional, and...
  28. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    We shall see man. Thanks for your response. Would LOVE to be able to avoid Anasyrozole all together. Like you said only labs will tell. 50mg (E3D). No AI. That's my plan. Unless it becomes unbearable.
  29. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    Thanku speed, I really appreciate the feedback and will keep you updated. Unless it is absolutely unbearable, I will stick with the protocol for six weeks and get labs.
  30. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    In fact I already feel it. I was taking 80/80 (2x/wk) but since I'm stopping the AI I will lower my T dose to 50mg (e3d). So I was wondering if you guys have heard of or experienced "estrogenic rebound" from discontinuing anastrozole?
  31. J

    Is HCG necessary on testosterone replacement ?

    I've been told it's been hijacked I honestly don't know what that means. This is my story this is my struggle. Speed, by e2 I mean Estradoil. I've been taking anastrozole for a year and a half regularly. And now I am stopping cold turkey. So I am anticipating aromatase to kick in big time...
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