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I feel you've got a dr that treats by these numbers you've got a problem. Lets say your doc doesn't want you to exceed 900 now bc of this test. We test at trough anyway. If you injected weekly you probably peaked at 1700 and came down to 900. Take the same dose and just split it to daily...

I've always been able actually feel a difference a few hours afterwards with a dose of hcg of 300iu or more. Clinic used a brand name pharma hcg(can't recall name). The past 1.5 yrs or so it's always been empower. Consistent results. I find the only real benefit is maintaining testicle size and...

My father is 65. His last TT showed over 900. Not lean. Does not exercise or eat right. Go figure. How in the world can they get "averages" of the US population using lean men? Those are few and far in between these days. I don't really trust doctors due to the experiences I've had. What I...

It's mostly e2 related. Seems e2 rising quickly or simply elevated gives me body acne. Specifically it gives me large and deep body acne. I've come to accept I always have mild acne. Taking e2 too low is the only thing that clears it up completely, and 100% of the benefits of trt seem to...

Cant say. I had an e2 of 48 w a tt of about 700 on weekly injections of 150/wk on day 7 at one point. Peak was 1200. I felt great. Only hint was acne getting kinda bad. Dialed in I still have some body acne, but it's minor. It's one of the most obvious indicators for me. If my e2 is high...

Id probably try either .125 or .25mg anastrozole per week if it were me. Get blood tests in a few weeks and take notes on how I feel. I'm suboptimal at various levels, but below 20 I just don't feel very good. Below 10 I feel awful.

Sooner or later you are going to somewhat be able to tell if you are high or low based on some type of symptoms. Just go easy on ai adjustments. I doubt you are far off from where you need to be.

Can't comment on #9, but the other 8 seem to be things that have remained true for decades through all the fads. Good info.

And you are even more of an ******* than I thought. BMI is a joke. The topic here is s kid with very low testosterone. I posted the angle I'd approach it from and you got butt hurt. I wouldn't spend a year of crucial development time on just diet and exercise. I'm sure in your world that solves...

Never seen any studies that indicate this. It's a good theory. Makes sense. Doesn't seem to play out that way. Sleep is the only thing known to cause low testosterone and be a root cause. Lifting weights sure didn't do a thing for my testosterone levels. Now I didn't have issues as a teenager...

Are you you offended by my comments? I've read many first hand accounts involving weight loss and low T. Never once seen someone solve the problem. So without proof otherwise I don't believe it. You know now there are muscular people who are sendentary, right? Seems about as relevant as your...

I don't even buy lack of activity causing low T. Never seen a case with blood tests to indicate it or someone with low T correct it by lifting. If being overweight was the issue it only makes sense to me if e2 and/or prolactin is causing the issue. Read of too many men who were stuck with low T...

I'll echo the idea of good value on bundles for the most common trt tests. Lipids bundled with t/e, etc.

I'm kinda thinking there's a relationship, but it's not completely linear. For example, even if your tt was 1300, I'd expect symptoms with e2 of 48. If tt was much higher maybe not. E2 of 25 could be ideal at a tt of 750, but 35 is better with a tt of 1100. It's just kinda the way things have...

I think there are a lot of ignorant doctors out there. Not sure how else to describe the situation. Those docs I am sure are not going to be comfortable with anything out of range, especially the vilified testosterone. Nobody whose wise enough to be reading up here should be wasting their time...

That's why I suggested holding off on quitting the gel. Half life is super short on it, and steady state with cyp will take weeks. I'd probably just use the gel based on symptoms personally until I knew I didn't need it. Not going to hurt yourself if you run a little over range testosterone for...

With the number being so low still, would the assumption be that if you found something you found it extremely early? 1.6 without those previous tests wouldn't even be looked at without the family history here, correct?

EXACTLY! When it concerns my health I want to be nothing like what is "average" these days in America. Since I'm stuck with exogenous T I'm damn sure not concerned about some arbitrary numbers. Symptoms, lipids, blood pressure, hematocrit, etc are what's important. Fortunately my doc is on the...

I believe they do that because it shouldn't sting as much, which prop is apparently notorious for.

I've had a charge hr about a year. Really like it except how bulky it is. It's taken a beating. You have to take the data with a grain of salt, but it's good for seeing trends. Seems to overestimate calories burned from what I can tell.

I agree with the advice 100%. Definitely make sure you get the testing done at trough with the correct e2 test. If that's an hcg day I'd take it after the test. You should be able to get things figured out at that point. Decent change you want to bump up the T dose just a bit, but maybe not.

I'm not sure exactly how to time it correctly, but I'd continue the gel for a little while. The cypionate isn't really going to relieve symptoms until blood levels stabilize somewhat. Maybe 2 weeks. Just guessing.

So you are feeling good and only seeing positive effects. How can any intelligent person think the best course of action is to effectively lower the dose in the worst possible method? Don't change a thing, and tell her you need the sensitive e2 test. Another 6 weeks, and then you would consider...

Lots of ignorance out there. Gotta just find a good doc or self treat. Simple as that imo. Arrogant medical pros like that will do you more harm than good, and they are the majority.

Doesnt sound like a good idea for many reasons. Why not just go back on clomid, workout, and eat right? I'm sure you would regain any muscle lost quickly. Tou are probably looking at long term clomid/hcg use or trt based on what you posted. That's not much detail, but it sounds like it.

I have been doing it for close to a year. Honestly keeping things sterile doing injections at home just requires common sense imo. I've read all kinds of crazy things, and it seems problems are very rare.

For me addiction is a mental thing. To really be done with that I've got to go cold turkey or ween myself off. Done this a few times with coffee. Lowering my consumption slowly over 2 weeks time is my preferred method.

Can't speak on the ED issues, but regarding libido you may want to consider a change in protocol if this is really important. It was night and day difference for me once my TT passed a certain point. IIRC it was 700+. Now peak was 1200 TT, and DHT was at the top of range as well. I was getting...

If it's early on in treatment I don't see any need to donate if you are in range, even if it's tops of the range assuming no symptoms. If mentally it's just bugging you no harm in just donating once and keeping an eye on it. That's what I did as I was unsure. It all settled down as it does for...

I did not. I don't see why it would directly. Maybe some water, but I don't think metabolism speeds up.

I deal with anxiety at times. In my personal experience hormones aren't the cause per say. Whatever makes you prone to anxiety, e2 out of range can and will make it worse. Just my experience.